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User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday October 24, 2014
Time: 07:45 PM

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Boletus Joe, You might try reading http://matsiman.com/messages/wild_gourmet_market_report.htm The link is also on left links bar.

Shallow stuff going off, wait a couple weeks and maybe the deeper stuff will also pop. Hopefully the rain will stop for ya.

 Matsiman


User_Name: Boletus Joe
Date: Friday October 24, 2014
Time: 07:25 PM

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BTW..... I was thinking it would be nice to find someone that has done as much investigation into price manipulation/control as Matsiman has done into crop prediction..... Then maybe some of us would have better days. But I would still go out al the same..... just saying.


User_Name: Boletus Joe
Date: Friday October 24, 2014
Time: 07:20 PM

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Hello Andy, King moral, Carla, Lobo and others.... What an interesting year this year. It/we have had a really good hit of matsi for the past 10 days or so. But with one BIG difference. There are lots of babies and they seem to be all on the surface, but there is no size to them (thus no weight) Overall I would say the average size for this crop is maybe 50-60% smaller than other years. Now the poor little buggers are getting drown with torrential rains. So we have undersize wet Matsi. Now throw in the massive amounts of pickers (saw 9 vehicles at on location alone) and our friendly ripping crew. and the price plummeting from $14 to $6 in about 4 days..... Happy hunting guys..... It's a channie day for me.....lol


User_Name: euvol
Date: Friday October 24, 2014
Time: 07:20 PM

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Noob, look at the "E-Flora BC: Electronic Atlas of the Flora of British Columbia" - very detailed info of BC mushrooms.


User_Name: cash
Date: Friday October 24, 2014
Time: 07:01 PM

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Watz the price of pine in hope anyone no? Or Boston bar?


User_Name: prymetyme
Date: Friday October 24, 2014
Time: 06:05 PM

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Anyone know the price for pines in pemberton or boston bar? Or anyone in Vancouver area looking to buy #1 pines?


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday October 24, 2014
Time: 02:04 PM

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Kingmorel, I'm monitoring closer because of last months posts and have more time. Matsiman


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday October 24, 2014
Time: 01:44 PM

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conicalifornia and common sense,  Interesting, your theories about MATSI production. Do you have any hard data to support what you say, or is it from observation?
 
conicalifornia, I do have production data from 92 through 2007 from Cave Junction and it's by the sale date and grade. Email me and I'll send. You could be right on the sap temps, but don't think the moon is involved. Hardwood areas always get some rain because of the time of year. I have also looked at this data and can find no correlation with rain. You should be looking at the Cascades in 95 and 97 both years had very dry starts. I have the weather and biomass data collected in those years and rain was almost non existent. As I recall they had .01 inches in the 2 months preceding the flush and nothing while we picked about 3 weeks. Those who picked there in those years remember how dry it was.
 
I assure both of you I have investigated temperatures as a primary influence. Take the time to read these pages and you'll find hard data supporting documented effects of temperatures and a science paper on effects of moisture. My documentation of the effects temperatures was mentioned in Dave Pilz biodiversity study
 
common sense, At one time It was common sense the world was flat. I'm a big fan of common sense, but doesn't work all the time. That's why studies use hard data to come to conclusions.
 
Thanks to both for adding your ideas.
 
Matsiman

User_Name: Foragette
Date: Friday October 24, 2014
Time: 01:43 PM

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Noob, all that the rain promises and more by David Arora is a great book for beginners, but for just radom curiosity northern bushcraft does give a list with pictures of many common edible varieties that are easier to identify. Nothing really beats hands on learning though, so join your local mycological club for a season! Nothing is better than gleaning the knowledge from seasoned pickers!


User_Name: Kingmorel
Date: Friday October 24, 2014
Time: 01:33 PM

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jamie did the zoo ever produce this yr?


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Friday October 24, 2014
Time: 12:23 PM

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Forgive me! Looked all over the page for your email and found it right in the left top corner.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Friday October 24, 2014
Time: 11:44 AM

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Matsiman, just need your email. Noob, at most book stores there are smaller books with mushrooms of the Pacific Northwest and also in library. So many mushrooms are edible however, not all are tasty. Best to stay with the commonly known choice edibles and do the necessary research when trying a new type. Even commonly eaten species can be harmful to some folks. Be very careful, a small meal of mushrooms is not worth damaging yourself for. Research, spore print etc. If you get photos of shrooms and post them on this board the good people here may be able to give their input to narrow things down for you. Good luck and be safe


User_Name: Kingmorel
Date: Friday October 24, 2014
Time: 10:50 AM

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hey Carla :). Hey Steve furniture store is done... The $12k per month rent was just too much of a profit eater.... Lasted5 yrs tho. Nice to see the attitude on the board.... What happened matsiman?


User_Name: Kingmorel
Date: Friday October 24, 2014
Time: 10:31 AM

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any info on the bridge in boston bar and if any mushrooms showing there?


User_Name: p.pr pickers
Date: Friday October 24, 2014
Time: 10:20 AM

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it was a buyer that told people here that.i enjoy picking maybe not some of the nonsense talk that floats about but i will still pick and keep the pines like eating them too learned that from our grandfather who ate them reguarly.happy pickin earl j ...


User_Name: The noob
Date: Friday October 24, 2014
Time: 10:19 AM

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Hi guys I was wondering if anyone knows the list of edible mushrooms in BC. Ive been going out for pines but walked past dozens of different species. If anyone knows a good information website Id be thankful.


User_Name: conicalifornia
Date: Friday October 24, 2014
Time: 09:55 AM

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in regards to this rain vs temp premordia development discussion i think basidiomyctes such as boletus, armellaria, canthrellus, and tricholoma level of fruiting production is a function of tree growth and sap movement inside trees throughout the warmer dryer season. I am real curious about any crop records around northern california in fall of 1984, 1997, 1999, 2009 before the larger storms hit. I think if you took tree ring data and looked at diameter of rings you could match up with bumper crops. Dont forget about our full moon also and heightened photosynthesis rates of all trees and plants during those times. I've found matsi and chanterelles fruit more with new moons when saps slow down and boletes like full when saps are moving bit more.


User_Name: common sense
Date: Friday October 24, 2014
Time: 09:17 AM

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mushrooms need rain in most places. the soil that they grow in varies due to water holding capacity. most areas need several inches of rain at the right time or they will not grow. that is the real deal


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday October 24, 2014
Time: 06:49 AM

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Counter 24 Hour Count 663. Matsiman


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday October 24, 2014
Time: 05:40 AM

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Lobo, thanks for the pic compliment. I'm surprised at the quality of pix taken by my "antique" camera. It's about 16 years old and was a medium quality when bought. Matsiman


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday October 24, 2014
Time: 04:21 AM

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Fishgod, Yep that's the address where I've been sending forecast updates. They haven't come back. Don't know why your not getting them. Maybe spam filters because of attachment? I'll try to send text , no attachment. Best to send me an email to me. I think I have the model working fairly well.

The last report from Earl j helped "tune" the model, I think. By the way, thanks Earl j for your post. I'm sure other visitors appreciate you taking the time to post good info. One can never be sure about anything connected with forecasting what matsi will do.

Fishgod, I have another update for your area. Email me and I'll send with attachment. Matsiman


User_Name: Northern
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 11:58 PM

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Rob Really? I just dont think the answer is quite that simply - I dont think there is any one answer but a combination of a lot of factors that went on this season, that includes the pickers and the buyers. Then it all comes down to what kind of crop it was that got bought- how long it sat (wherever) before it got shipped out. And who knows that answer for sure- Further, I dont believe Joe Chung is making any major decisions for the company at all any more. ( he must be in his 80's now?) no, I'm not a JC fan but just dont agree with you on this one. Further, the more companies there are, the more competitve prices become ( or they should ) Nope_- I dont believe he alone crashed the market- I believe they are paying the price for what they got- (maybe trying to re-cap some losses.)


User_Name: dRod
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 11:55 PM

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Does anyone have any information on how I could get on to a crew to pick morells in the yukon this spring? Do people pick through companies or privately?


User_Name: rob
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 11:08 PM

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Joe Chung.....Using navitour to deliver mushrooms to japanese famies, You have circumvented the tRaditional Japanese system and as a result of this you have collapsed the market. I wish people would realise you are detrimental to the mushroom industry and stop selling to your buyers


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 11:02 PM

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Matsiman, I didn't receive any emails from you. Perhaps the email wasn't correct. It's jamieanderson77@hotmail.com. With my comment about a lot of rain I really just meant soggy shrooms. Have read much info on the site and through our talks as well and feel I understand better now about how moisture and temperature both play a huge role in production and that rain or lack thereof, is not the be all and end all with fruiting of matsutake. I do appreciate your sharing of research and valuable knowledge which no doubt has taken many years to accumulate. This board and site is very helpful for me and I'm sure many others!


User_Name: Earl j
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 08:04 PM

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Prices in hope are 10/10 /6/2/1. It's a good flush not huge though. White chans are done a few boletes Pines won't last to long if it keeps raining For who ever it was who who commented that it was the price of mushrooms in Powell river that shut down the buyers b. If you believe that I have a couple of words of advice. Don't pick you sound like your disgruntled. The other is you don't know what your talking about so maybe you shouldn't comment on what you don't know about. Forgetta I was just in nakusp buying most of the mushrooms there are done. If your familiar with the area you will still find some nice pines Most are flags but still ages buttons. Oh yeh boston bar prices are the same as posted. You can't get into nahatalach valley bridge is closed For repairs Enjoy your picking


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 06:30 PM

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really nice shaggy photograph


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 06:00 PM

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Shaggy Mane Pic.

Matsiman


User_Name: cash
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 04:53 PM

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Watz the price of pine in hope anyone no? Or Boston bar?


User_Name: french onion
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 04:48 PM

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does anyone know prices for pines in the boston bar area or pemberton area? merci


User_Name: Foragette
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 04:47 PM

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Planning to head out on Saturday into the kootenays can't decide if south through Creston or north through nakusp is better? Both will be kinda equal distance from me and I'm not from the area or terribly familier with the season there.. I'm hoping to see mushrooms of any variety. Edibles for personal use only ("winter is coming.."). Since I also am aware of the massive drenching these areas have had and my time there will be limited, I'd also to buy some if anyone in that neck of the woods has some for sale?


User_Name: p..r.picker
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 04:41 PM

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all buyers closed today because of price in powell river/maybe they should all take there signs down


User_Name: Jay
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 04:34 PM

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Hey Phantom this is jay I missed ur call, i gave up and heading back to Alberta :( I lov to buy some Pines from u if u hav enough please give me price and let me know where u sending it from / u can always phone me or e mail me joh851128@gmail.com


User_Name: Jay
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 04:30 PM

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Hey phantom I c lots of pines from ur pic, where r u?


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 01:27 PM

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Did another short scout this morning on southeast facing slope. Found 4 small #1 out of about 3 dozen patches. Matsiman


User_Name: Phantom picker
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 01:23 PM

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Jay,I'm in a coffee shop soon to head out to a friends house should be an hour or less call you then if that still ok.


User_Name: Kootenaybrother
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 01:17 PM

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Major rain event here in the koots! Them shrooms still popping gona hit some south faces to see whats out there!Oh by the way, nice pictures phantom picker! Have fun out there everybody! Good times in the bush!


User_Name: Jay
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 12:58 PM

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Hey phantom this is my number 7802800456 Give me a call thx


User_Name: Jay
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 12:55 PM

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Hey phantom, if u don't mind give me name of location and do u have enough pines? Do u want to sell some of them to me? I am about to leave Clearwater now so let me know ASAP thanks


User_Name: Phantom picker
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 12:42 PM

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Hey jay,the pine pictures are from a week or so ago and there a few hours away from you but there are fewer every day here everything seems to be flagging out. I was out yesterday but only found 7lbs of one and 20lbs of flags.


User_Name: Jay
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 12:25 PM

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Hey phantom I c lots of pines from ur pic, where r u?


User_Name: Phantom picker
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 12:24 PM

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http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/Phantompicker1/profile/ Ok got it now, the pictures are on the bottom they grow on my apple tree and would like to know what they are.


User_Name: Phantom picker
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 12:18 PM

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Oops I forgot to load pictures.ill try again.


User_Name: Phantom picker
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 12:15 PM

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Does anyone know what this mushroom might be they grow on my apple tree .http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/Phantompicker1/profile/


User_Name: Jay
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 11:11 AM

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Anyone has pine in Clearwater area? I couldn't find any and I'm willing to buy some plz call me or e-mail me ASAP. 780 280 0456 or joh851128@gmail.com


User_Name: Dku
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 10:58 AM

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Anyone have some mushrooms for sale near Kamloops or Clearwater today? David 7805172727


User_Name: glen
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 08:08 AM

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Porky that's bs anyone who knows me knows that's not true.I don't pick and buy at same time and never send people to others patches


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 07:45 AM

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Counter 24 Hour Count 640. Matsiman


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 07:42 AM

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Fishgod, The Rain?
 
We kinda had this discussion last month. It's what started the hecklers to target me. Rain has benefits and can be detrimental to mushrooms. I'll try to explain once more.
 
We all know moisture is necessary for mushrooms as mushrooms are 90% water. There is no doubt moisture is needed. The source of that moisture and how much is needed is the question. Our debate identified mushroom moisture sources, but not how much moisture.
 
How much moisture is difficult to measure, and is probably irrelevant. Document seasons indicate historical crops can be produced with little or no rain. So if a good season can happen without rain, where does the moisture come from?
 
Fiddlehead Heaven, Hank and others helped with identifying moisture sources. Rain, fog, hi humidity, dew, springs and deep tree roots were among sources. We sorta established rain isn't necessary because of other sources. No matter what the source, the host tree ultimately supplies moisture. As far as I know trees can take in moisture through leaf / needle and roots only. In most seasons, in most areas, rain is considered the primary source of moisture. However, the South Central Oregon Cascades can get little or no rain before and during mushrooms formation and growth. Visible moisture sources are non existent, The moisture must come from deep roots.
 
Since rain is not necessary, what are the effects of rain?
 
Rain can make soil temps cool and warm faster and evenly due to the fact wet material does just that. Rain also makes the fruit (mushrooms) much larger, but personally I would rather have lots of mushrooms instead of a few big ones.
 
For some reason it is the popular belief rain is absolutely necessary for matsi. It's probably because weather systems with rain cool soils to a point where formation is possible. Usually a warming follows these systems. the warming forms mushrooms, not the water. This is not the case in some areas in some years. Dry cold fronts cool soils the same as wet systems, it just takes deeper or prolonged cooling to have the same effects as wet fronts.

Rain also has it's down side. Too much rain can water log forming or growing mushrooms making them unusable for personal or commercial use. The unseen effects of rain have a more detrimental effect. After soils are cooled by wet or dry systems a warming is needed to form fruit. Persistent rain or cloudiness usually keeps warming to a minimum. With no warming, mushrooms are not formed. If they are not formed, they can't grow.
 
If you want to know how the season is progressing, look at temps, not rain.
 
Hey Fishgod, you been getting my email updating the model's forecast? I have received no replies. Maybe you've been out picking!!
 
Matsiman

User_Name: Phantom picker
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 05:50 AM

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Wow!! Man,is this rain ever going to stop. I think I'm going to stay home today,there's alot of flags out there because of the rain and the buttons are going to mush or purple mold it doesn't look good. I think it's comming to an end here. I'd like to see an other pop come on but man it's still to warm and I realy think that it's not going to happen. I could be wrong but like I said it doesn't look good out there and looking back at past seasons they've all been a short pick sorry to say.good luck and be safe.


User_Name: JDS
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 05:47 AM

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Western Washington pickers...If you haven't checked your lowland patches it might be a good idea to get out there!!!


User_Name: porky
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 01:09 AM

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Rover, his name is Glenn not Mark.


User_Name: porky
Date: Thursday October 23, 2014
Time: 01:06 AM

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Rover, i've dealt with mike for years and he's been good to me. He'll buy long after everyone else is closed. Julie's husband Mark tried to follow me to my big patch after bringing in a big load the day before. They'll never know how many i have again.


User_Name: mushroom guy
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 10:04 PM

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Thanks Porky! :)


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 09:59 PM

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Hey King nice to see you back. How's that handmade furniture business going. For some reason I thought fish god owned it but then I remembered it was you. Scott anywhere out there if so send me an email it's been awhile!


User_Name: Nasspicker
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 09:21 PM

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Hello all from Nass/Terrace area. Weird season this year! Don't know if the Nass is done or if we got another week or 2? Didn't start popping good til Sep 20th. been raining for 3 weeks and finally gonna stop for a few days. hoping to make a few more g's get up passed that 10,000 mark.


User_Name: rover
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 09:16 PM

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There is a buyer in mill bay south coast. Not sure if she's open yet .Julie is much better to deal with than mike


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 09:03 PM

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If the rain don't stop I fear the season is in trouble. Matsiman......your thoughts?


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 09:01 PM

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Thanks again all, phantom, appreciate your mentioning of possible allergy. It's like some shrooms can't be consumed with alcohol. When trying new species to eat (after 100% positive id) I always begin with eating only small amounts and of coarse cook them very well. Don't know if a spore print will happen as the rain is hurricane style and I feel that batch may have spored. Will wait till I find another batch.


User_Name: porky
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 08:36 PM

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Mushroom guy, call Mike at (250) 710-4427. He buyes all wild mushrooms. He's in Cowichan.


User_Name: Mushroom guy
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 08:20 PM

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Hey just wondering if anybody knows of a pine buyer near victoria on vancouver island.? Thanks


User_Name: Foragette
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 07:07 PM

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Our area had almost no honey's this year but a nice harvest of hydnum (hedgehog). It's what makes wild harvesting so fun it's like an enormouse surprise bag, you never know what you'll pull out! I'm getting antsy to get out there two more days, got the rain gear packed!


User_Name: Phantom picker
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 06:54 PM

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You should also keep in mind that a lot of people have allergic reactions to honey mushrooms so carefull on how many you eat at once. It's funny how seasons vary on what's out there. Last season it was hedge hogs and this year none but, I've seen and picked jelly ears,apricot jelly mushrooms and combstooth where as the past seasons you couldn't even find any of those. Gona go get wet again tomorrow and relocate an old patch hopefully it'll be worth getting soaked for lol. Came out of the bush today 10lbs heavier from my clothe lol. Good luck and be safe.


User_Name: Foragette
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 06:25 PM

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I come from a foothill area where the pickings are fewer. Red lobster and chanterelles don't grow here at all.. However when honeys pop people here go crazy! They are highly prized even though they are a incredibly destructive killing trees rather than moderating their growth


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 06:06 PM

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Thanks again folks, had a feeling they were edibles. Will hopefully get a spore print overnight if I can find a good one for setup. Will use dark paper with the assumption of a light or white print and will try to post a pic if succesful. Have never eaten honey mushrooms but they look yummy if they are indeed the right ones.


User_Name: Foragette
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 05:55 PM

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Looks to me like you have armillaria (honeys) I'd just confirm white spore print


User_Name: Phantom picker
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 05:53 PM

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Fishgod,they look like honey mushrooms to me, I've seen so many of them this season it's unreal.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 05:13 PM

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And here's one when they were a couple of days younger http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af243/fishgod77/shrooms/D367ABE6-B88B-44C1-98EC-78B6324B0C7D_zpskjni82og.jpg


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 05:11 PM

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Thanks guys! Here's a pic of the gills http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af243/fishgod77/shrooms/E8919504-0473-4190-9DF0-57FABDB154C2_zpshnf6gbsy.jpg


User_Name: Boletus Joe
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 03:53 PM

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Fishgod.... I concur, 85% sure they are "honey's"


User_Name: Foragette
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 02:54 PM

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Fishgod, they look like armillaria maybe or pholiota it's hard to tell if they are smooth or are scabby on top and a pic of the gills would help ;)


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 01:44 PM

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wayne, Thanks for the encouragement. I'll be watching the board allot closer since I left the campground host position.
 
I did get a chance to check a few patches. Found 3 small buttons just barely pickable. Left them to grow or seed.
 
I wouldn't get excited. there wasn't much else. A few scabbers and zellers. This small flush should be easier to find in 3 or 4 days. Don't take a bucket, a coffee cup will do.
 
I guess I was at about 1900 ft. north to northeast by an old mostly overgrown skid road. No sign of animal digs or traffic. I was lucky to find them.
 
Matsiman

User_Name: wayne
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 12:06 PM

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hi seaspearo i live in crescent city we might be able to work something out but its still early email me next month at ez4sure@juno.com on another note matsiman im liking the feel of this forum lately with you on here all the time gl to everyone happy trails ss


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 11:44 AM

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Hi all, sounds like the rain is spoiling everyone's fun!duckin...... Like the pics of last years haul! I found these shrooms last night and was wondering if anyone knows what they are at a glance. Will research them when I have time. http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af243/fishgod77/shrooms/9631F380-AF52-4E75-902A-8CA882643CE7_zpskhnlts9p.jpg


User_Name: seaspearo
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 11:41 AM

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Hi All: I live in San Francisco bay area. Had been picking mushrooms in Northern California for past 10 years, we had very few Matsutake here. So plan to go to Oregon this year, I know this year is very slow and with past few weeks rain, maybe it will get better? Can anyone help us by giving us some basic information, like if the Matsutake showed up yet, what elevation, what general area we should go? We don't need your secrete spot, we are not commercial, just want to pick few pounds and have a good trip. If anyone interested in do a paid guided trip for us, that will be great too!


User_Name: Mushroom Bandit
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 08:31 AM

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Raining in Nukusp. But I'm a mountain ninja, I'll be out there after a big breakfast and maybe watch a little TV. Perhaps a hot shower.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 06:44 AM

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Counter 24 Hour Count 566. Matsiman


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 06:41 AM

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Morning All, Yep we got rain coming here also. Things are wet now, but suppose to get 1 1/2 to 2 inches in the next day or so with a chance of rain for the next week. Not getting all that cold though. Temps are suppose to average low to mid 50's. We have formed a very, very small crop, but don't think it is showing yet. I got some early patches within walking distance of the motor home I may get a chance to check today. Checked them last Thursday and nothing. Matsiman


User_Name: Phantom picker
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 05:20 AM

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It's getting wetter and the pricess are getting smaller. Down to $14lb last night and most likely to be lower today time to pick and dry.good luck and be safe,or stay home and dry lol.


User_Name: garf
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2014
Time: 04:40 AM

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ok the rain can stop for a bit any time now ...Just saying ...rivers are getting high and going to start losing some roads. went out today and there is very little happening . Oh well back to the woodpile but it is very hard to keep the wood dry long enough for delivery ... geez and its coming down hard outside ... love it though ...all part of living in this paradise.. just a peek or two of blue or some sun on my face for a few hours thats all i ask... cheers full buckets and i will be in the woodpile...


User_Name: just duckin in
Date: Tuesday October 21, 2014
Time: 07:56 PM

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Hi all, where are the mushrooms this year ? It's been a nothing year for me so far so I'm feeling whacked out and had to resort to digging out some pictures from a couple of picks from last year just to remember what they look like! I can remember getting mushroom fever back in 1961 and still get it every year. http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/superstang2068/library/


User_Name: Mossy top
Date: Tuesday October 21, 2014
Time: 06:28 PM

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Nemophilist: Around $3.


User_Name: Mushroom Bandit
Date: Tuesday October 21, 2014
Time: 06:25 PM

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I'll exept that. And nakusp has few lobsters but it's supposed to rain for a couple more days so they'll be all waterlogged I'm sure. I only kept two today.


User_Name: some picker
Date: Tuesday October 21, 2014
Time: 06:21 PM

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nemophilist, 4 to 5 on the coast, thanks for the new word.


User_Name: NEMOPHILIST
Date: Tuesday October 21, 2014
Time: 06:04 PM

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Can anyone tell me how much chanterelles are being bought for near Eugene?


User_Name: Foragette
Date: Tuesday October 21, 2014
Time: 05:49 PM

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I love nothing more than being deep in the back country, cooking fresh mushrooms with dirt under my nails and a hat to hide my crazy messy hair! My boyfriend gets a scratch and we have to head back for polysporin and bandaids, so it's not just a girl thing.. Some people just aren't cut out for nature! Which is probably a good thing, someone has to fix my computer!


User_Name: Mushroom Bandit
Date: Tuesday October 21, 2014
Time: 05:27 PM

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Found a good #2 in a tree today some small buttons underneath.  Guess somebody forgot their GPS. I also have some sound picking advice for the newbies. Don't bring your girlfriend picking!!!!!!!! Especially if she is already prone to crankiness!! Crankiness is easy to tolerate when your at home and she's all fixed up and looking hot. After a few days in the bush tends to lower ones toleration levels while raising her crankiness factor. Just sayin


User_Name: Wild foragette
Date: Tuesday October 21, 2014
Time: 05:00 PM

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Thanks kootenaybrother! I'm mostly just trying to fulfill a personal itch that encroaching winter brings on.. I was in the Nelson area a week ago and had a blast learning a whole new set of mushrooms from what I'm used to! I was secretly hoping there may be a few stragglers in and around there. I'm a complete newbie when it comes to red lobster (we pick a lot of the hypomyces viridis) just wonder how long they last and if taking the south loop then going up through naksup would still be interesting? I'm interested in all mushrooms not just the common edibles the variety that grows out there is fascinating!


User_Name: Kootenaybrother
Date: Tuesday October 21, 2014
Time: 04:14 PM

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I'd focus on the hotsprings , al though any old patch you find ,pop it in the gps and add it to your patch inventory!This time of year is good for that , and don't forget your rain gear she's supposed to rain cats and dogs! That being said, hope bc , Boston bar should be hot right about now!I bet thoses number#1 matsutake should be poppin right about now! (In thoses further southern areas )


User_Name: Wild foragerette
Date: Tuesday October 21, 2014
Time: 01:31 PM

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Hey all, Sadly our season for anything here is over (early snowfall seemed to have finish everything off). So I've been reading all your posts like an addict, with green eye'd shroom envy..! It's gotten so bad I've agreed to a family holiday in the south kootenays just to have an excuse to get near to where there's still a season of any kind happening. On the off chance I get to slip away, I'm curious how far south I'd need to go before I see something still in season? Could red lobsters still be out near naksup? Or would I be wasting my hot spring soaking time ;)


User_Name: Kootenaybrother
Date: Tuesday October 21, 2014
Time: 01:04 PM

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Next experiment of the this week, The hedgehog mushroom patch. Pick the hedgehog peel Back the moss layer,scrape the teeth of the hedge hog mushroom evenly over a one square foot area.Replace the moss back to cover the teeth. Mark your spot with an x or flag tape to return next year.Rain in the forecast calling for 40 to 50 mm over the next few days , excellent transplanting weather?Will be interesting to track this experiment over the next few seasons!


User_Name: Powell River Jack
Date: Tuesday October 21, 2014
Time: 10:01 AM

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I went out picking Matsi the other day. I took along a small dog I had found abandon and near death way back in Interior mountains a few years ago. WE called her Lucky for obvious reasons. I started to pour as we reached the truck. I put her in and put keys in ignition as to not to drop them and closed door to keep truck dry while I dealt with our find. Lucky stood on door handle to see what I was up to and "CLICK". The little bitch finally stepped on the unlock button after I was totally soaked. Mans best friend? Hmmm. I guess a dog can teach an old man new tricks.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Tuesday October 21, 2014
Time: 06:56 AM

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User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Tuesday October 21, 2014
Time: 05:52 AM

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cranberrydawg, Great info, thanks for sharing.
 
Your method of hiding unwanted mushrooms in a patch is the same I use and for the same reason. Goes back to a time when a picker had to do everything possible to hide where they pick. It's good to hear it payed off for you. I haven't noticed that effect here or in the Cascades. Then again I haven't been as vigilant as you were. Didn't use the same hiding spot year after year.
 
Really starting to look like "seeding" will work, but difficult to confirm from a science point of view. When we first started talking about inoculating, we talked to our lead scientist. He said the first step was to determine if matsi was present before inoculation. If it was, then another spot needed to be selected. Can't start something that is already there.
 
Regardless of what science thinks about Hank and your results it's still great info. Matsi present or not before inoculation, both of you have determined seeding can help.
 
Thanks for sharing. Maybe some of our visitors will try the technique and report their findings. It's always fun to try something  different.
 
Matsiman

User_Name: cranberrydawg
Date: Tuesday October 21, 2014
Time: 12:30 AM

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It was a hoot to run into Meg, Shantyman. Crazy that she recognized me. Wanted to get into some of the wedding stories with her, but it was a zoo in there...she was pretty busy. I'll phone you in the next couple of days for sure and we can compare notes. As it turns out there was no way I could get up there to pick the patch anyway, as I have my daughter full time at the moment. Insofar as the discussion about seeding the patches with hats and wormies, there is no question it is possible. Been doing it for 25 yrs. My favorite example: I was always paranoid folks would stumble on my zones so I would meticulously hide the wormies - in one area, I would stuff those unsavory buttons under this one giant hemlock tree that had fallen lengthwise down the slope. Well, lo and behold if I didn't pick about 50 perfect buttons (all in a nice line) under that tree a few years later. And damn if that old hemlock tree didn't produce consistently season after season after that. It was magic. I'm pretty sure that this seeding, if we want to call it that, has to occur within the actual patch though. I have tried to transport spore into other areas with no success at all. I think the spore, and the mycellium in general, are far too specific to each particular forest zone for there to be any chance of that. As for why the patches die, it has been my experience (hemlock/pine mix forests) that once the trees reach a certain age they no longer produce. It is that simple. Fir forests, on the other hand, are a totally different story. Here on the Island the pines play by a much more peculiar and unpredictable set of rules. They grow in the ancient old growth and they grow in the pecker poles. Just when I think I've got them figured out I see one growing out of a crack in the pavement in a parking lot in downtown Qualicum Beach. Go figure.


User_Name: rob
Date: Monday October 20, 2014
Time: 08:16 PM

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hey bandit, give me a text at 250-775-1158. cheers


User_Name: Mushroom bandit
Date: Monday October 20, 2014
Time: 08:06 PM

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$110 for a few hrs pickin ain't so bad. Plus all the mushrooms I can eat. And I'm just getting started. No wonder they call me The Mushroom Bandit.


User_Name: PACIFIC WILD HARVESTERS
Date: Monday October 20, 2014
Time: 01:00 PM

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I am buying chanterelles in the Eugene area. I will travel for large amounts. Pacificwildharvesters@gmail.com -Paul


User_Name: shrooms
Date: Monday October 20, 2014
Time: 12:16 PM

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Fast freddys in hope been there for a week sorry for the late update


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Monday October 20, 2014
Time: 06:55 AM

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User_Name: garf
Date: Monday October 20, 2014
Time: 12:56 AM

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Snail bait in a pine patch ... geezz some real bright lights out there . Taking any kind of poison onto public lands would be illegal you would think and should be reported . I don't know about other areas but anyone coming this way looking for mushrooms will be very disappointed and by what i read it is that way in most places . As for prices going down for the weekend those games never change . Have been to lots of spots that were producing good last year and there is nadda . Picked a few chantrelles to eat the other day . full buckets and goodluck and until then i will be in the Woodpile ....


User_Name: austin
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 10:29 PM

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Pine prices are going to crash in the next few days. Expect to get $6 by next weekend. Blame the high temps, worms, heavy rain, fleas, typhoons, foreign importers, the moon, etc,etc. Just don't blame me.


User_Name: Shantyman
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 09:25 PM

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Crandawg It was good to hear from you through Meg. Call sometime and I'll tell you about this crazy season from this end. It would be good to catchup with you ....excuse or not Shantyman


User_Name: koootenay brother
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 09:23 PM

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Im gonna try a few micro experiments in my back yard,im gonna dig up some pines and transplant under similar old hemlocks,along with mycelium root system and cover up moss and water heavily,1 km away from exsisting patch.with hegdehogs and matsutake,only time will tell results,should be interesting.seem to have that old gray burn layer in both locations


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 07:13 PM

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Kootenaybrother; I know of someone in Idaho who was attempting to expand the matsutake by transplanting candy stick plants. …. Hank; The crushed shell mixed with storage wheat also ruptures weevil and apparently does not harm humans.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 06:54 PM

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Hank, Evidently you aren't familiar with our studies. We found the same as you observed in regard to picking method. Here is the paper we published on the subject. http://matsiman.com/formalpubs/Effects%20of%20mushroom%20harvest.pdf Snail bait? We had some locals put hoppered mushrooms in a shoe box and spray with insecticide then sell back in the mid nineties. There are some crazies out there. Matsiman


User_Name: Hank
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 06:40 PM

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Hmm.. As far as over picking or actually digging the ground up to find the babies and keeping the ground open kills the area for matsutake growth.I have seen places that looked like a bear got at the ground and raked the whole ground back and left it open but I knew the pickers that did that and told them never to do it again.The matsutake never grew there again. I got around 50 pounds within about 5 acre lot one year and every year after that I was lucky to get 5 pounds if that. It was a new spot and i picked everything that was good and filled the holes back in but that obviously did not help. I have not tried reseeding the area with 4's and 5's though yet. I tell most of my pickers to leave the turned up #5's in the woods to throw spore. One picker said he used snail bait out in the woods to keep snails away from the mushrooms and his patches have been getting less every year and he is a person I have heard digs like a wild bear and leaves the ground open sometimes. Anything under 3 inches goes directly into #4 so I try to tell pickers to keep those in the ground instead of ripping up the ground too much to find them. The snail bait is poisonous to animals and people should never be using that,maybe better to use crushed up clam shells or any other type of shells in rings around their patches to kill snails/the crushed shells slice the snails open and the calcium in them might help patches also. I have not tested soil content in matsutake area's but I think there might be something different in it than area's with no mycelium.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 06:36 PM

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Kootenaybrother, I haven't heard of any documented reports of any transplants or starting matsi with spore. Read this page http://matsiman.com/inoculate.htm I know of no new developments. My study partner and I thought about transplanting live mycelia in the winter when it was dormant, but never got around to doing it. Mostly cause there is 7 feet of snow in the study area when we think the time is right. Read down to what Hank says. Seems to work for him. Matsiman


User_Name: Mushroom Bandit.
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 05:56 PM

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Pembertons just starting I heard. $18lbs. I'm happy here fresh lobsters and shantrells with dinner. A good start for me in my old pine spots.


User_Name: Kootenaybrother
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 05:44 PM

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Did anyone ever try transplanting or spreading matsutake spores to expand exsisting patches?Does anybody have any thoughts on this type of experiment?


User_Name: Mike
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 04:59 PM

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Anyone know of any buyers in Vancouver BC


User_Name: Rob 802
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 04:06 PM

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theres buys on vancover island port alberni cambell river and lake cowichan oh 1 in wisky creek too might be more thats the 1s i know about


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 02:33 PM

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Carla, Great, look forward to seeing those smiling faces. My camera is an old Sony that took floppy disk. I can't use a cell phone camera either. My cell is 7 years old and I still can't and don't want to figure it out. Matsiman


User_Name: Carla
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 01:42 PM

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Dang it I mean to say KingMorel...lol


User_Name: Carla
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 01:41 PM

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I will bring a camera to work, I am too old to work the one on my phone lol


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 01:09 PM

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Carla Those smiles are what the Visitors Matsi Photo Gallery is about. Can you send some pix and I'll put them up? Matsiman


User_Name: Carla
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 01:05 PM

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Welcome back Morel King.


User_Name: Carla
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 01:03 PM

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There are a lot of new pickers this year! I love when they come into the buy station all excited because they found a new species we buy :-) Those big smiles just make my day! Hope you all have a great day out there :-)


User_Name: Mushroom bandit
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 12:44 PM

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I'm in nakusp across the ferry. The buyers gone. Af few camps set up. Anyone know what happened to the buyer. It should be rob.


User_Name: MushroomManMike
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 12:36 PM

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Hello fellow pickers!! Anyone having much luck in the boston bar area? i know the bridge is going to be out tomorrow! for 10 days! any input on this?


User_Name: RM0213
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 11:57 AM

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Pines going 22 per pound for #1's and 18 per pound for #2's in Hope. Anyone know buyer's on the south-central Vancouver Island for chantrelles or pines?


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 10:09 AM

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Hank, thanks for the response, but doesn't help me understand why the 97 Cascade crop grew.
 
Interesting what you say about spore. Our sustainability studies say otherwise for short term. Short term being over 10 years. We plan on writing a science paper on just that subject.
 
So far what we have found is that picking or not picking doesn't make any difference. We have informally compared 30 patches we picked and 30 we don't for over 10 years. We can find no difference in production. There is a slight variance year to year. Some years more in picked and some years more in not picked. Over all they stay pretty much the same.
 
We are noticing some patches are dyeing out. Our lead scientist wants to do genetic tests to maybe get a clue as to why. Not sure if just the picked ones are dyeing or both picked and not. I'm fairly sure it's across the board. It's something I'll need to look into.
 
It's always sad to hear areas of patches are being logged. Wish there was a solution. Be thankful it's strip logging and not entire sections.
 
Matsiman

User_Name: p/r/picker
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 09:41 AM

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well out for a hunt lookin for pines too small see alot of people out there.try to leave the little ones if you can this year the ground in some spots already dug up


User_Name: Mushroom bandit
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 09:40 AM

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I'm in nakusp across the ferry. The buyers gone. Af few camps set up. Anyone know what happened to the buyer. It should be rob.


User_Name: rover
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 09:12 AM

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Vimush what area are you in north or south what variety do you have


User_Name: Hank
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 09:02 AM

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I have seen new patches produce more matsutake years ago than they ever have the years afterwards.I think most of that might have been from overpicking an area and not leaving behind any older mushrooms that produce spore. I have sliced up tops of fully open matsutake into halves and quarter and put them on sticks gills down and close to ground as possible to simulate how a natural growing mushroom would throw it's spore without being carried too far away. I did expand patches into surrounding area's that never grew any matsutake there before by doing this. You can not just put them anywhere and expect matsutake to develop,the mycelium has to already be there but I figured you need the spore to activate the growth.My seeding the area's took 3 years to start growing in places they never grew before,but maybe 50 to 100 feet from original natural growth area. The largest amount of Matsutake that we got had grown in hot humid weather when hurricane's brought up the extra moisture and moderate temps from the gulf of mexico. I have not seen many hurricane's come directly over the northeast this year also,we just got the edges of the bands of rain from them and some warmer temps.I have had other people put the fully opened and still white gill matsutake on sticks as well in area's surrounding where they pick and they had some expansion of growing area's also within about 3 to 4 years.I had not noticed much condensation on the ground in sept. in mornings also.In oct. we started to get more condensation and some rain . A lot of area's that grew the most matsutake in my area have been getting strip cut.I could have payed land owners more to leave the trees that the matsutake grow around instead of just getting payed a percentage for stumpage.It gets pretty depressing looking at land you knew had a really good natural resource you could collect every year and end up being destroyed for what a land owner through was good money for only 1 time.Most land that the Matsutake grow on here is owned by individuals and not protected area's.


User_Name: VImush
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 08:48 AM

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Hi, looking for a buyer on Vancouver island.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Sunday October 19, 2014
Time: 07:00 AM

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User_Name: kingmorel
Date: Saturday October 18, 2014
Time: 09:59 PM

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heh he h Matsiman... ya im still kickn... just back from the UK...


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Saturday October 18, 2014
Time: 09:50 PM

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Hank, Welcome to the board and thanks for the input.
 
All I can say is that the fruiting you are describing there this year may be because of the effects of moisture conductivity of temperatures. We all know things get hotter or colder much faster when wet than dry. Since temperature changes play a major roll, could it be that dry soils didn't change as much as wet. Therefore did not form.
 
As I said before, the South Central Oregon Cascades had a historical season in 1997. There was no rain, no fog, low humidity, low soil moisture and high temps. At least 100 square miles produced more matsutake than anybody had seen or have seen since.
 
I'm not making these conditions up or relying on memory. I have the weather from a government weather station that was nearby and the actual pounds picked by grade. I think my wife and I picked 3/4 ton or around 1,500 pounds. I know this season happened as I described.
 
What I can't understand is if temps weren't the cause of this crop, what was?
 
Matsiman

User_Name: Phantom picker
Date: Saturday October 18, 2014
Time: 09:25 PM

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Shrooms,what you hear is true,I have a buddy picking up in nahatlatch and the bridge is closed for ten days as of Monday so now is the time to go and camp on the other side of the bridge.Good luck and be safe.fishgod, sorry for the delay man been busy picking and getting home late. I haven't worked out the problem just yet but will try and fix it when I have a little more time.


User_Name: Hank
Date: Saturday October 18, 2014
Time: 09:14 PM

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I am not far from Fiddlehead Heaven and the Matsutake season here started second week of Sept as it usually does but not many came out this year compared to other years. We had extreme drought after July and even the rain we have gotten has not helped streams or much else. The matsutake that did come out were beside ponds ,rivers and spring fed area's. All other regular growing areas produced nothing this year.The way I see it,if the Hemlock trees these grow under do not have enough water to feed themselves,there would be none given up by the tree roots to feed the matsutake growth. I have over 20 different areas i pick in within a 75 mile radius. I am in Maine and I buy from other pickers as well to resell for a very small profit to a wholesaler. The only way I can make any money is if I have bulk which this year was next to nothing. Many of the pickers gave up since it costs too much for gas to travel to their patches and not enough to even pay for that.It's the worst year picking matsutake in over 20 years I have been picking.There might be more matsutake coming out but from what I have seen compared to other years,they aren't worth my time this year.I use part of the mushroom money to pay for heating bills each year and I did not even make enough to pay for one month of heating. Good luck Fiddlehead .You might need it this year. The Maitake did not do well this year also,only one to be found in the about 15 trees I know they grow around in different parts of my state. Chanterelles did very well in july but everything dried up after that month because of drought.


User_Name: shrooms
Date: Saturday October 18, 2014
Time: 09:07 PM

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No buyers in boston bar yet nahatlatch soon i heard the bridge is out up nahatlatch is that true anyone know?


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Saturday October 18, 2014
Time: 08:30 PM

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Fiddlehead Heaven, yep, know where you are and have always looked forward to your posts. I understand what you are saying about humidity. What I am saying is that we have had historical crops with low humidity, little or no rain and low soil moisture. So you can see why I wouldn't have considered humidity as a needed source of moisture. I'm guessing that the needed moisture to grow a Matsutake mushroom, and form one, comes from deep underground. I can't think of any other source. If you can please let me know. Matsiman


User_Name: Fiddlehead Heaven
Date: Saturday October 18, 2014
Time: 07:24 PM

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I am on the east coast Matsiman, in New Brunswick and of course our weather is certainly different from the west coast. The high temps I was talking about are for our summer crops such as Chanterelles, Lobster, Hedgehog, Trumpets, and Boletes. Our season begins as early as mid June and we are pretty much done by mid Sept. However our peak Pine season is the same as where you are, which is really going to get going next week. Lots of babies starting to show these last few days, so it's on for us next week. The point I was trying to make, is that mushrooms do not necessarily need rainfall to fruit as long as the humidity which creates moisture is there, and of course a drop in temps to insite the mycelium to fruit. Some mushrooms only need as little as 4 to 5 degrees, and others like the Pines need a more drastic change....Dwight in new Brunswick


User_Name: Dgtogg
Date: Saturday October 18, 2014
Time: 06:43 PM

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Does anyone know of pine mushroom buyers in or around Whistler, BC?


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Saturday October 18, 2014
Time: 06:19 PM

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Fiddlehead Heaven, Sounds like your matsi growing conditions are different from some here in the US. We don't get hi temperatures with high humidity. The Central Oregon Cascades get very little rain in the fall. There are late summer thunder storms which sometimes wet scattered areas, but extremely rare to get a storm that is wide spread rain. The humidity is almost always very low, but we still get good crops. Most of the moisture mushrooms need there is from water deep underground. I heard form a botanist a large black oak will process 500 gallons a day. Matsiman


User_Name: prymetyme
Date: Saturday October 18, 2014
Time: 05:59 PM

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anyone know where the buyers are in roberts creek


User_Name: siwash picker
Date: Saturday October 18, 2014
Time: 05:52 PM

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Are there buyers in Boston bar?


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Saturday October 18, 2014
Time: 05:48 PM

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idahopete; Welcome to the best darn mushroom state, I was raised in Idaho and you are located in the middle of mushrooms from early spring till late fall. Right now the lobsters and yellow chanterelles out to be good about 20 to 40 miles North from Moscow Mountain and East to Montana. In the spring the morels may be found as close as Lewiston Orchards and Waha then most any direction that is forested. White morels may be found up the Clearwater and up the forks under the leafy trees.


User_Name: Fiddlehead Heaven
Date: Saturday October 18, 2014
Time: 04:10 PM

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Matsiman, relative air humidity is everything to living symbiotic mushrooms. If the temps are in the high 90s and even into the 100s, as long as the humidity index is up there in the 90s too. The trees get to drink all day long and it keeps the mushrooms nice and moist through the day. Not to mention the heavy dew every night & morning. And of course in the case of Matsies, they need that cool down in the fall along with those foggy mornings to get things going good in my area. It has been good to have some time off to be back on the board these last couple of weeks. But I just got word that the buttons are popping in the neighborhood again, so gotta get geared up to head out again to see if it's any better than the last little puff we had!


User_Name: idahopete
Date: Saturday October 18, 2014
Time: 01:51 PM

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I have a question? ive picked pine in randle and in troutlake wa and all over the coast! but ive recently moved to Idaho around the Lewiston area and was wondering if anyone knows if pine grow anywhere between boise and Spokane . I looked and ground looks right all the same things but nothing yet! please let me know if im just wasting my time thanks!


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Saturday October 18, 2014
Time: 09:18 AM

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Mad Morel; Interesting year you are having. One thing I have observed is in years of seeing lots of white chanterelles in Randle area or hawks wings on the east side Cascades, I also saw numerous matsutake in the same area.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Saturday October 18, 2014
Time: 07:18 AM

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Counter 23 Hour Count 446. Matsiman


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Saturday October 18, 2014
Time: 06:22 AM

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Mad morel, Thanks for the report. Looks the same here for matsi. It's early yet, but forecast is indicating a season much the same as Canada and the Cascades. Matsiman


User_Name: Mad morel
Date: Saturday October 18, 2014
Time: 02:40 AM

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It's not looking very good for pine's here on the Eastern sloops of the cascades of washington bur the yellow chanterelles have been doing well all summer long ans still doing well, sweet tooth and bellybutton hedgehogs are popping big time we pick 8lbs on thursday with some yellow's and a hand full of whites. White Chanterelles have not done very well at all this year and Boletes have been poor as well lot's of bear head and shaggy mane's?we pick a basket full of them and was up all night cleaning and cooking them to put away for later. I have not seen any pig ears our Hawk wings but the Honey mushrooms showed up big time and after two weeks they were never to be seen again tell next year are two maybe three years. Blue Chanterelles came on to give us there deep blue color just to have a photo taken for those that have never see a blue leg and as most know them as Blue chanterelles (Polyozellus multiplex). It's been a long season and lots of photo's have been taken and a lot of indexing to do this winter of the many fungi found and not found this year and there is still three weeks if not four before the season is over here on the Eastern sloops of washington state Cascades. I'am still holding out for a good flush of pine's but tell then it's back to Yellow chanterelle's and hedgehogs and soon yellow foot chanterelles well be up very soon.


User_Name: northern
Date: Friday October 17, 2014
Time: 11:11 PM

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j in Terrace heard they put him in an induced coma- no news since


User_Name: Arrow Shrooms
Date: Friday October 17, 2014
Time: 11:04 PM

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Kootenaybrother: You sound like you know your stuff and your posts are quite interesting and informative. I don't think I have met you. Feel free to stop in for a chat and a bevy at my station in Nakusp next time by if you would like. (Jean's Mushroom Station) just past the bridge toward the Galena Bay Ferry Hwy 23 N


User_Name: shrooms
Date: Friday October 17, 2014
Time: 06:26 PM

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Call robin mushroom buyer in hope 1 780-830-6126


User_Name: J in Terrace
Date: Friday October 17, 2014
Time: 05:59 PM

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Has anyone heard how Dougie Branton that was run over while picking in the Nass and was medevaced to Vancouver is doing


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday October 17, 2014
Time: 04:33 PM

Messages

Fiddlehead Heaven, Put the link to the page you posted on the top link bar. Thanks for your contribution.
 
By the way, Your post on hot humid good season with dry soils took awhile to sink in. The host tree takes in moisture and nutrients through leaf and needle. Wouldn't have thought of that one.

Matsiman


User_Name: Kootenaybrother
Date: Friday October 17, 2014
Time: 04:13 PM

Messages

Pulled in around a dozen hedgehogs today the biggest I've seen in a while!Found an epic pine patch but they were all flagged out and wormy , left them in the ground so they could do their thing!Gonna hit the creek hopefully pull in some fish,Good times in the bush!!


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday October 17, 2014
Time: 02:39 PM

Messages

Fiddlehead Heaven, thanks for the link. Boy there is allot of reading there. I noticed Matsiman. com is listed as a reference. Matsiman


User_Name: Mushroom Poet
Date: Friday October 17, 2014
Time: 02:00 PM

Messages

Hello all. The prices in the Nass and Terrace are at 18 per pound and going up.


User_Name: Fiddlehead Heaven
Date: Friday October 17, 2014
Time: 01:38 PM

Messages

Some Info from the Yunnan province in China I think that may be of interest to what is happening to where our share of the Pine mushroom market has gone since the early 80s and some of the regulations that have been imposed in that country. A must read to help us understand where 69% of our market share has gone. This report is from 2005, so that percentage could be a lot higher by now. http://www.worldagroforestry.org/sea/Publications/files/proceeding/PR0030-07/PR0030-07-2.PDF


User_Name: shroomgirl
Date: Friday October 17, 2014
Time: 12:30 PM

Messages

Just got back from Mt Hood. Hiked into an area with 2800' elevation climb. Found about a pound of Matsi's at about 4500', but there were a few other pickers ahead of me. Sparse pickings still, as they only had a few. Rained cats and dogs Tuesday and Wednesday, so did other things. Went out yesterday into the old maid flats. Also sparse pickings. Also following behind other pickers. Got about a pound again. With all the rain tho, I imagine the next few days they will be poppin. No Chanties showing anywhere up there. Found a nice oyster log, and some nice fresh pig's ears. That was it. Had to come home, all good vacations must come to an end. Heading to Mt Adams and Mt St Helens tomorrow. The lowlands will be poppin with Chanties soon! The signs of the season's end are showing. Until then, Full buckets to ya'll!!


User_Name: Northern picker
Date: Friday October 17, 2014
Time: 12:02 PM

Messages

It's been about a week since I've been out. Anyone know the prices in terrace nass area Thanks


User_Name: prymetyme
Date: Friday October 17, 2014
Time: 11:32 AM

Messages

Does anyone know where the buying stands are in Gibsons/ Roberts Creek?


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Friday October 17, 2014
Time: 08:39 AM

Messages

Korea1128; response is on the Mad Morel Bull Board


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday October 17, 2014
Time: 07:39 AM

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User_Name: Korea1128
Date: Friday October 17, 2014
Time: 01:26 AM

Messages

WOW! Thanks Lobo I would love it if you could share that information with me whenever you get the time to do it! You can email me at kevinlee931@gmail.com I'm also glad to hear that you recovered from a stroke.


User_Name: matsigurl
Date: Thursday October 16, 2014
Time: 07:59 PM

Messages

Thanks Fishgod for the positive thoughts. Never can get enough of those. Best of luck to you as well. Full buckets...Matsigurl


User_Name: Kootenay brother
Date: Thursday October 16, 2014
Time: 06:47 PM

Messages

Halfway hotsprings is awesome, make sure you vehicle has good suspension and an extra tire , the road is pretty rough, awesome soaking spot !If the picking isn't that great soaking is always a good option, the fishing is usually really good in October! Good eats!


User_Name: cash
Date: Thursday October 16, 2014
Time: 06:04 PM

Messages

Watz the price of pine in hope anyone no? Is fast Freddy buying out there?


User_Name: mushroom bandit
Date: Thursday October 16, 2014
Time: 05:46 PM

Messages

i've spent several seasons in boston bar but i fear those hills with my newly acquired gut. lol. I'm gonna head to nakusp for a weak just to get out there. i'll keepmy expectations down and bring extra cash. thanks for the heads up. in BB wild bills always been fair.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Thursday October 16, 2014
Time: 05:40 PM

Messages

Matsigurl, good to see you back on the board, best of luck when you get out there!


User_Name: matsigurl
Date: Thursday October 16, 2014
Time: 05:15 PM

Messages

Hi all.... Hey I am looking to go up to the Northwest Cascades (Cougar, WA / Randle, WA) anytime from now until Saturday afternoon. Anybody who may be heading that way, I'd like to ride with. I can pitch in gas money and maybe even show you a few great spots to pick. I'm in the Portland/Vancouver area now. If you message me here, I can give you my location. Good luck this weekend to all pickers. Full Buckets to all......Matsigurl


User_Name: Kootenaybrother
Date: Thursday October 16, 2014
Time: 05:01 PM

Messages

More #1 buttons in Boston barM Nakusp almost done although I didn't see any red russulas !


User_Name: Kootenaybrother
Date: Thursday October 16, 2014
Time: 04:59 PM

Messages

Nakusp area is wrapping up although I did find a few buttons, most I saw were flagging out and wormy! Better luck in Boston bar , and hope zone , mobile buyer that was in nakusp has set up further south.boston bar I think?good times in the bush back to the firewood pile!


User_Name: Mushroom bandit
Date: Thursday October 16, 2014
Time: 03:58 PM

Messages

Kootenay brother. I was gonna head up there this weekend for a week. Are the pines flagging out while they're still small.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Thursday October 16, 2014
Time: 01:59 PM

Messages

Korea1128; I have some memory challenges associated with the stroke, please forgive me for any mistaken identity. I have several matsutake patch areas marked in my BC map book that I will never be able to visit again, if I find the book I might share. For now I can not access the map cases as my things got piled up by those my wife had cleaning my van so she could sell it, while I was in the hospital and rehab for the stroke.


User_Name: cash
Date: Thursday October 16, 2014
Time: 12:44 PM

Messages

So is it the end of the season for pines anyone no?


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Thursday October 16, 2014
Time: 11:46 AM

Messages

Carla, Got out this morning to take a look. Nothing in matsi showing yet. Very few other fungi. Matsiman


User_Name: cash
Date: Thursday October 16, 2014
Time: 10:46 AM

Messages

Is there a buyer in Boston bar anyone no?n if there is how much a lb?


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Thursday October 16, 2014
Time: 07:41 AM

Messages

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User_Name: Emile from bc
Date: Thursday October 16, 2014
Time: 07:36 AM

Messages

Hi! We're two pickers looking for a Mario, who's a buyer in Kelowna, BC. Does anyone have his contact? Please text or answer here (514 433 4611). Thanks!


User_Name: Korea1128
Date: Thursday October 16, 2014
Time: 01:00 AM

Messages

Lobo: I think you are mistaking me for another user with Korea in their username. I have not picked matsutake in Korea. Right now, they sell Matsutake for around 25-45 dollars a kilo. The local Matsutakes in Korea are going for around 500 a kilo


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Thursday October 16, 2014
Time: 12:36 AM

Messages

As far as truffles go I know the basics well basics to some might seem advanced. I Have Found Some But Less Than 50. ANY SUGGESTIONS ::-)


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Thursday October 16, 2014
Time: 12:31 AM

Messages

Well haven't made it back into the high cascades but herd there a popping. I hope to go to my spots before they're flagged out. Something I know little about truffles anyone have any advice?


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 11:10 PM

Messages

Korea1128; for some reason I thought you were in Korea. Have you ever foraged for matsutake there?


User_Name: kootenaybrother
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 10:43 PM

Messages

Looks like the season is wrapping up in Nakusp, Lots of Flags, scoped out some new terrain,south facing Piles of Pine flags and soggy chanties! New terrain for next year. Capped off the season with a soak at halfway hotsprings, awesome forest! Loving the hot water nestled in the Old Growth!!


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 10:11 PM

Messages

Korea 1128, also, don't be afraid to ask the buyers where to pick. They want you to get lots so you sell to them lol!


User_Name: Mike
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 09:33 PM

Messages

I'm looking to buy fresh chanterelles in Gibsons area e-mail totheroof@live.com


User_Name: 2014
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 08:38 PM

Messages

Cool MM......first visit.......seems like a clean board this year. Rained hard the last 5-6 days and low 40's at night on the Hood......patches are gonna be kickin top soon. Really smells like a nice set up here.


User_Name: Korea1128
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 07:50 PM

Messages

Thanks Fishgod for the great tip. I will look out for the buyers!


User_Name: BakerMAn541
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 07:36 PM

Messages

How do you get into being a mushroom buyer???


User_Name: cash
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 07:23 PM

Messages

Ya I heard its happening in hope?


User_Name: cash
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 05:25 PM

Messages

Hows the pine in Boston bar any one no?


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 05:10 PM

Messages

Good luck and welcome to the board!


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 05:09 PM

Messages

Korea1128, always a good idea to try to find out where the buyers are set up cause where there's buyers there's usually shrooms close by!


User_Name: Korea1128
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 04:50 PM

Messages

Thanks Matsiman for the info. I will try my luck this weekend!


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 04:42 PM

Messages

Korea1128, Welcome to the board.
 
One of the first rules of picking is "Don't Tell Anybody Where Your Patches Are". I suggest you do some reading here on the site and learn how to find areas for yourself. http://matsiman.com/introduction.htm and http://matsiman.com/tips.htm . There is also a booklet that basically has the same info as tips. http://matsiman.com/booklet/matsutake_booklet.htm. I'm in Southwest Oregon. I think the primary host tree in your area is Hemlock.
 
You can just about bet most areas near roads are picked, but you could get lucky.
 
Matsiman

User_Name: Korea1128
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 03:36 PM

Messages

Oh, and I also wanted to ask when would be a good time to go pine mushroom picking. It has been raining consistently for the past few days. Do you think the pines will be up by the weekend? or should I wait until the next weekend?


User_Name: Korea1128
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 03:34 PM

Messages

Hi I am new to mushroom picking. I want to pick some pine mushrooms in the British Columbia area. I am a student and will only be picking for personal uses. I don't know the situation of pines in Korea but if anyone has any questions I can do a light search or some translating. If anyone knows some good pine mushroom areas between Vancouver and Pemberton, I'd love it if you shared some info with me.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 03:17 PM

Messages

Hey Carla, Good to here things might be looking up. The same here. Looks like we're forming a descent crop now and have been for a couple weeks. I lost my original weather source so can't be confident the model is correct. Gotta wait and see. It's a little early, but I'm going to check some early patches tomorrow afternoon. Matsiman.


User_Name: Mushroom Poet
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 03:13 PM

Messages

The middle flush, 3 of five is ending in the Nass. I picked almost sixty pounds of buttons this weekend and another thirty of mixed grades for a total of 860 bucks. My buddy made $450 yesterday but things are definitely slowing down.


User_Name: Carla
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 03:11 PM

Messages

Woot, we just got 3 days of real rain! We might actually see a season here after all ;-)


User_Name: freeride
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 11:02 AM

Messages

Can anyone tell me why pine #1's going for 32/lb further north and 8 down here? Might as well take em to burnaby and sell em myself #ripoff


User_Name: ol' gulch
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 08:55 AM

Messages

Hey Van, I'm in the abbotsford area and i buy chanterelles from time to time, send me an email if you want to chat: yourwildestfoods@gmail.com


User_Name: Lily15
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 08:50 AM

Messages

There are two buyers in Hope off hope flood road. Pines are slow- chanterelles are starting to pick up. Also wondering if there is a buyer in Boston bar area. Any info would be appreciated.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 07:51 AM

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User_Name: Rob 802
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 07:51 AM

Messages

just Dan where on vancouver Island are you and what u paying for pines or ph me 1-250-932-3263


User_Name: cash
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 07:40 AM

Messages

Is fast Freddy buying in hope anyone no?


User_Name: cash
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 07:21 AM

Messages

Any pine poppin in bostin bar anyone no


User_Name: Van
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 01:53 AM

Messages

Anyone buying chanterelles in abbotsford area?


User_Name: Mad morel
Date: Wednesday October 15, 2014
Time: 12:14 AM

Messages

thank garf. I as well looking for pines but chanterelles keep popping up just to slow me down. lol


User_Name: Arrow Shrooms
Date: Tuesday October 14, 2014
Time: 11:17 PM

Messages

Koots - For info on buyers in the Kootenay area you can email me at: hewat@telus.net


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Tuesday October 14, 2014
Time: 10:35 PM

Messages

That's the spirit scruff! Full buckets, have fun!


User_Name: Scruff
Date: Tuesday October 14, 2014
Time: 09:35 PM

Messages

Excellent, rain, cold and the cranky board has gone away. Time to head up to Garf Land soon and see if things have improved. Noticed Rusalas and mycelium spreading out over the forest floor the other day. Fresh caps on the high peaks. Yes


User_Name: JustDan
Date: Tuesday October 14, 2014
Time: 08:08 PM

Messages

Hi, I'm on Vancouver island, and I buy every kind of mushrooms! Give me a call: (514)797-6926 JustDan


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Tuesday October 14, 2014
Time: 07:50 AM

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User_Name: Mad morel
Date: Monday October 13, 2014
Time: 11:29 PM

Messages

YouTube video from my" best dame patch" of yellow chanterelles we have been picking all summer long and still picking + two others that have been slow all summer tell now. (1) Eastern slops of the cascades of washington stete #1 (2)Best dam patch around (3)Chantys in the night (4)Chanterelles go mad in Eastern Washington Cascades, Take some time to watch them it has been the best year for us and had alot of fun picking them and still picken. They started showing up on the 7th of july and are first sale was 10 lbs on the 18th of july.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Monday October 13, 2014
Time: 09:15 PM

Messages

Phantom, are you using pc? If so may be good to do a scan if its kicking you out of email. When you first tried to post the photobucket stuff my iphone warned me it might be phishing. For years I've used a free program called "spybot search and destroy" works very well even if you have anti virus.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Monday October 13, 2014
Time: 09:07 PM

Messages

Thanks Phantom, no rush. Looks like a very cool place!


User_Name: Phantom picker
Date: Monday October 13, 2014
Time: 08:15 PM

Messages

Fishgod,for some reason I'm having problems with my e-mail trying to send but keeps kicking me off. As soon as I get it worked out I'll send you the where abouts.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Monday October 13, 2014
Time: 06:15 PM

Messages

kingmorel, Was thinking about you for a couple days. Good to see ya still kickin. Matsiman


User_Name: kingmorel
Date: Monday October 13, 2014
Time: 05:21 PM

Messages

anyone buying dried morels? if so price plz.... kingmorel@hotmail.com


User_Name: aro
Date: Monday October 13, 2014
Time: 05:10 PM

Messages

how much paying for good chantys??


User_Name: BCPicker
Date: Monday October 13, 2014
Time: 04:37 PM

Messages

Hi, I'm a picker in the Bella Coola Valley and am seeking new buyers for my mushrooms and to see if there is a wider selection I could be picking. I'm trying to get in contact with buyers to get lists of what they buys, their terms, etc. If any buyers want to contact me they can email bcpicker@hmamail.com. If anyone has any advice or info to share, feel free to send a message there too. Thanks all!


User_Name: Nightpicker
Date: Monday October 13, 2014
Time: 10:38 AM

Messages

Maybe mushroom Dave would know?any pine powell river area


User_Name: Night picker
Date: Monday October 13, 2014
Time: 10:33 AM

Messages

I know it's not to late


User_Name: Nightpicker
Date: Monday October 13, 2014
Time: 10:30 AM

Messages

Is anyone finding pine in powell river area


User_Name: road23
Date: Monday October 13, 2014
Time: 10:30 AM

Messages

it is too late to pick pines now?


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Monday October 13, 2014
Time: 07:47 AM

Messages

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User_Name: scpicker
Date: Monday October 13, 2014
Time: 03:53 AM

Messages

The buyer on reed rd in Gibsons should open this week as soon as some decent womless mushrooms pop.


User_Name: prymetyme
Date: Sunday October 12, 2014
Time: 09:58 PM

Messages

Does anyone know any buyers in the Roberts Creek/ Gibsons area?


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Sunday October 12, 2014
Time: 08:17 PM

Messages

Few matsi's yesterday but didn't really go far out had my girls with me in the rain; )


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Sunday October 12, 2014
Time: 07:46 PM

Messages

Phantom, It's jamieanderson77@hotmail.com


User_Name: Phantom picker
Date: Sunday October 12, 2014
Time: 07:34 PM

Messages

Fishgod,shoot me your e-mail.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Sunday October 12, 2014
Time: 05:44 PM

Messages

Phantom, any chance you could give me an idea where that place is? If you don't care to share publicly I could fire you my email. Would really like to check that place out sometime.


User_Name: Phantom picker
Date: Sunday October 12, 2014
Time: 04:10 PM

Messages

Fishgod,ya it is,you have to see it in person to really appreciate it. There's more graves than what I posted and the picture from the river looking up at the hill is where the settlement is. I tried to do a little research on it but couldn't find anything or anyone that even knows anything about it. I tried to google some of the names on the head stones and again nothing, they probably didn't keep records back then.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Sunday October 12, 2014
Time: 03:34 PM

Messages

Phantom, got em! That is an awesome find!


User_Name: Phantom picker
Date: Sunday October 12, 2014
Time: 03:30 PM

Messages

http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/Phantompicker1/profile/ Fish god try this one. I guess I was still doing something wrong. Good thing my kids are around to teech me lol


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Sunday October 12, 2014
Time: 03:07 PM

Messages

Phantom, couldn't get the link to work:(


User_Name: Phantom picker
Date: Sunday October 12, 2014
Time: 02:44 PM

Messages

Fish god,here is the link.the only way that I could get photobucket was by the link you posted cause I don't have enough space to download the apt so thanks man for letting me know about it. Phantompicker1.50472@uploads.photobucket.com


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Sunday October 12, 2014
Time: 01:39 PM

Messages

Stormking, welcome to Matsiman board! Phantom. When you put the pics on photobucket did you make a username so I can search for them? If you made an account you can copy the link and post the link to the board.


User_Name: Dku
Date: Sunday October 12, 2014
Time: 08:40 AM

Messages

I would like to buy some pine/ chanterelle for personal consumption and to share with friends. Must ship it to Edson, Ab. David. 780-517-2727


User_Name: Stormking
Date: Sunday October 12, 2014
Time: 08:37 AM

Messages

Thought i would say hi to all. New to this site, but been reading the messages for the last couple weeks. My first time back out picking Pines in almost 20 years, and so far i like what im seeing. I live in SW. Wa. Anyone else finding good pines in sw. Wa. Lately? Also looking for another picker to hook up with, if anyones interested lmk. Thanks for looking and be Safe..


User_Name: JDS
Date: Sunday October 12, 2014
Time: 06:53 AM

Messages

Garf...I'm in Western Washington.


User_Name: Phantom picker
Date: Sunday October 12, 2014
Time: 06:31 AM

Messages

Garf,the first time I went there I found 4 rotten flags and nothing els,no sign of anything. So you never know man lol.good luck and be safe


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Sunday October 12, 2014
Time: 06:18 AM

Messages

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User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Sunday October 12, 2014
Time: 05:38 AM

Messages

Morning all, Let's take the gold discussion to the Mad Morel Bull Board. No one is using it and it was meant for this type of discussion. Matsiman


User_Name: garf
Date: Sunday October 12, 2014
Time: 02:53 AM

Messages

hey Phantom great going ... holy smokes 25 lbs ..that makes me want to get out there again but i promised myself two weeks and i am not there yet... there wasnt even chantrelles where i was last time and i know where to look and no signs of baby matsu or anything ...no rusullas no boletes ... JDS i did two loads of firewood yeserday cut ,split and delivered so maybe tomorrow i will go for a drive have a look around ... not sure we are in the same areas even ... i do know tho that the mushrooms stations are getting nadda .... phantom was there any signs at all before when you checked 4 days ago....like last year this spot i went to had nothing showing too but on closer inspection there were little ones buried and i went back in a week to pick no signs like that this year... cheers and full buckets


User_Name: Phantom picker
Date: Saturday October 11, 2014
Time: 11:58 PM

Messages

Fishgod,I posted some pictures of the cemetery and the train wheel that I mentioned earlier.there on photobucket.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Saturday October 11, 2014
Time: 08:28 PM

Messages

Phantom, not sure if you are using a phone or pc or something else but I got photobucket free for iphone and it works very well for sharing photos. I'm sure there's other programs too. You just save pics to photobucket, copy and paste the link to the board. Would like to see those photos. Nice if more folks share mushroom pics too!


User_Name: Phantom picker
Date: Saturday October 11, 2014
Time: 07:27 PM

Messages

I personally don't mind the gold talk since I my self do alot of it when I can. A couple of years ago I came across an abandoned settlement on the Fraser river. Theres a cemetery there with sixteen head stone and half of them are made of wood and the ones that are marble are from the early1800 so who knows how old the wooden ones are cause the writing on them has faded. I also found a set of train wheels there so I looked them up and found out that there from 1845 and the only other set of wheels is in a museum out in the states,can't remember where abouts thou. It's a cool site all of the fruit trees and grape vines that they had planted are still there and taken over the area. I figure that these people were settled there before the railway was put in place.ive got pictures of the place and if I can figure out how to post them I will.besides that pines are popping went out to a patch that had nothing four days ago and today they were everywhere,got 25lb in 2hrs it sure was nice but wet. If it can get a little colder I think pines would be popping even more.good luck and be safe.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Saturday October 11, 2014
Time: 04:40 PM

Messages

austin, Thanks for the heads up on the gold talk. I was thinking the same. Don't think I'll make a board. There are 4 here all ready. We'll just take our discussion to email unless there are some here who are interested in gold as well as mushrooms.
 
Doesn't seam to be much going on with mushrooms. Pacific northwest is between matsi flushes, still picking the last one in some places and waiting for another formation to happen somewhere. Looks like another 2 to 3 weeks before anything could happen here in Southwest Oregon. The normal stat time here for commercial is the first week in November. Temperatures and rain are forecast to be good to cool and wet soils enough to begin formation. Just hope for a long spell of daily averages to be 59 to 64 degree F. A degree or 2 above or below these temps won't be harmful.
 
Matsiman

User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Saturday October 11, 2014
Time: 04:32 PM

Messages

Austin, the mushroom talk will always be on this forum. I kinda think its nice that we can talk other things at the same time. It's all outdoor treasure hunting nature stuff and all interesting besides, we need something to start chatting about when winter hits and there's no shrooms lol!


User_Name: austin
Date: Saturday October 11, 2014
Time: 03:48 PM

Messages

Maybe a new board for gold would be best. Most come here for mushrooms although we're all chasing rainbows and easy money. Some get lucky, most just have interesting stories to tell.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Saturday October 11, 2014
Time: 02:10 PM

Messages

Matsiman; Yes I would like to see any drawings about it also. ..... Fishgod; I have had three Whites gold detectors but every time I swing one my back complains loudly, so I sell it and in a year or so I purchase a newer model. Last summer I purchased a Gold Bug from Arizona Outback and took it up to my mine; Yes the same thing happened. Casting for trout does it by the time I reel just one in. I used to be able hike into the wilderness and fish all day. It was stone masonry and hauling 8' logs for wood that did me in.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Saturday October 11, 2014
Time: 11:52 AM

Messages

Matsiman, definitely interested in any pics or info you can post in regards to gold recovery. Another thing I picked up was a metal detector, not for gold really but just treasure hunting. Couple of months ago found an antique ring that weighed 8 grams.......not bad for 10 mins.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Saturday October 11, 2014
Time: 11:41 AM

Messages

Well, the monsoon cometh. Heavy rain for most of the coming week in vancouver and the Fraser valley. Will be good for the rivers and the salmon. Guess we will see how long it lasts and and how it affects our beloved shrooms. Just seems to me that sudden and heavy rain for long periods can wreck things. Keep my fingers crossed, itching to get out there!


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Saturday October 11, 2014
Time: 10:01 AM

Messages

Lobo, Forgot to mention 2 couple feet of rope and a roll of cheap sheeting plastic. Plastic isn't necessary if other materials are available on site. I could make a drawing, take a pic and post the pic, if anybody is interested. Matsiman


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Saturday October 11, 2014
Time: 09:47 AM

Messages

I'm not the designer. They have been around a long time. A good mining and mushroom friend showed me how. They are extremely simple. You really don't build one. You just buy the parts, and put it together on site. No tool needed except a screw driver to tighten 2 hose clamps. Parts are as follows. Dredge hose, PVC pipe, tire inner tube, 2 hose clamps, a stick about a foot long and a sluice box. Matsiman


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Saturday October 11, 2014
Time: 09:12 AM

Messages

Matsiman; I drew up plans for such a dredge when they closed my favorite river in the 80's but did not have the engineering background and I got so busy researching mushrooms that it never got off the ground. Do you have a link?


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Saturday October 11, 2014
Time: 06:48 AM

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Counter 24 Hour Count 431. Matsiman


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Saturday October 11, 2014
Time: 05:34 AM

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Lobo, Only the box was made of wood. The rest was 1/8 welded steel. They were suppose to just change metal to stainless or aluminum and the box stainless, aluminum or plastic. Anybody hear of a siphon dredge. It uses no power and no pressure hose. Made from PVC or ABS pipe. They work as good or better than a power dredge. No noise and can be used in areas where no power equipment is allowed and dredging is permitted. Matsiman


User_Name: JDS
Date: Saturday October 11, 2014
Time: 04:47 AM

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Garf...I went wood cutting Thursday and stumbled across a really nice Matsutake at the end of the day. It didn't look like the right kind of woods, but now I need to go back and look around some more. And there is a lot more wood there too!


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 11:27 PM

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0h, I ought to say that a roll of ADS is expensive and 3" & 4" does not come in sticks. I get scraps from a pipe business, plumbing store or what ever business does drainage stuff. I made a high banker with an 8" 'T' & placed an old milk straining funnel in the off-shoot hole to shovel into. Some extra 8" scrap cut in 1/2 length wise for the sluice. At the head I placed an end cap and hose connection, as a sluice just leave the end cap off.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 10:21 PM

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Matsiman; bummer about that company doing you wrong. Wasn’t your other thumper you sent photos of a few years ago made of wood, maybe a prototype? ……… Fishgod; I cannot recall the names of things I tried, you need to experiment for yourself, but I didn’t try liquid nitrogen. Make a cheap but great sluice with non perforated ADS pipe cut in 1/2 length wise. The ones made with the smaller pipe are often called poop tubes, I screw boards along the length for stability, works better for me than any flat bottom sluice; 3” works fine for me.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 10:08 PM

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Matsiman, that's too bad but the way it goes more often than not. Inventions especially in a niche market can be a tough gig I'm sure. The thumper is a great machine from what I can see, pretty much cuts panning time down to as minimum as one could wish for. I have no machine, no sluice and just spend my whole day out panning or taking samples to take home and pan(actually, my sister steals my samples and pans them lol)


User_Name: Shroom luv
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 09:53 PM

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I love picking chanterelle or matsutaka mushroom on the west coast. I'm just looking for some ares in pemberton then the other places I know to pick. I know there are other pickers in my area I just am looking for my self. I got out of the picking for money. Now I just pick for cooking and the love of the hunt. I used to pick on the island and on the west cost but with the forest being clear cutted I know just look for my self. I don't want people's picking spots just places to look for, other than the obvious. I used to pick out of port alberni but that is just killed now : ( compared to what it used to be.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 09:09 PM

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Fishgod. I sold the right to manufacture to a company who tried building them and seriously screwed them up. They sold them to another company who cant sell them. I am working with the new owner to fix everything and incorporate the last years improvements. I get 10% of net sales. Because of the screw up the costs of manufacturing, buying the machine and now re development, I won't get anything until they make a net of over 100,000.00. Might as well say I won't ever get a dime. OH well at lest the machine will work properly.
 
The video on the following link is the people who screwed it up. The page belongs to the guy who bought the rights. http://thegoldlab.com/gold-extraction-tools-the-gold-lab/the-thumper/
 
Matsiman

User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 08:49 PM

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Thanks Matsiman, awesome video and very cool invention with the thumper. It looks kinda like back-tapping a pan and sluicing all at the same time. Thanks for sharing. Will you be selling these units at some point?


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 06:40 PM

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Fishgod, I won't get a copy. It's online at the production company page, or at least one of their pages. I like to stay in the background so am reluctant to give the link. They say it has been received very well and people love me. Just the kind of attention I prefer to do without. Anyway I suppose I should post the link. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ulo1h7h72ccwtj7/Andy Sequence_Porchlight.mov


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 06:31 PM

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Matsiman, if you get it please do share. Would very much like to see if I may. Sometime, we are going to head up country to look for nuggets. Thing about our part of the Fraser river(lower) its mostly flour gold. There are other rivers we have tried and recovered flakes from washing moss and such..... Lotsa work but fun!


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 06:24 PM

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Fishgod, It's not here. I just found out 2 days ago it exists. Seams the production company has been trying to contact me for 3 or 4 months. Matsiman


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 06:21 PM

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Matsiman, for some reason I can't find the clip on your machine. Perhaps I'm looking in the wrong place?


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 06:12 PM

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GOLD!! I have finally finished my finish machine after 2 years of fiddling around with the thing. Must say I'm impressed at the job it does. Literally no panning to reduce material into 5 to 10 minutes panning. Easy to operate. You just load the feeder, turn on water and wait till it finishes. Feeder capacity is 6 cups and lasts about 35 to 45 minutes.
 
There is a video of the machine online. It was taken about 2 years ago before I spent another year developing. Haven't seen the video yet cause on dial up. The video was done by a production company interviewing me. There is also a segment on Matsi. I think it is a little over 3 minutes. I saw a few seconds. I told them I wasn't very photogenic, and the video proves just that.
 
Matsiman

User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 05:54 PM

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If you do happen to dig up those riverbank locations that would be awesome. Would probably faint if we found a nugget. I often thought of trying to make a sluice. We could buy a cheap, small one starting at $200 but its probably like anything else.......ya get what ya pay for! The decent high-bankers can get up there in price but with a sluice one can work it all day then take the concentrate home to pan it, seems the odds would certainly improve!


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 05:46 PM

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Lobo, your deworming/ debugging method, would vaccum sealing work and keep them cold do you think or would it be too harsh with no air at all?also my sister has a farm and I can get access to liquid nitrogen. Have often thought of flash freezing matsutake in the nitrogen but not sure if they would be any good after thawing.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 05:39 PM

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Fishgod; a sluice is nice, I have taken more than one ounce of gold in one day with a sluice. I was deep in a canyon and the river often came up 20' during spring flood. When the water dropped I worked the top of a large rock that the river where water pressure had blown some gold up out from the river bed. I know of a spot in BC that has river bank nuggets but cannot recall where without my map book, it is in the store room where I cannot access with the wheel chair or walker. The next time a friend comes over perhaps he can get it for me. I really doubt that I will ever get up there and like the other information I shared earlier I no longer need to keep my secrets because I doubtfully wil be able to use them myself.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 05:39 PM

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The best we have found is flakes, no nuggets yet! Gold prospecting is very time consuming but very fun. We are quite new to it. Just really and excuse to get together with my sis in the great outdoors


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 05:01 PM

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Lobo, very interesting stuff indeed! Turns out my sister and I prospect for gold also. Mainly panning but looking to obtain a sluice.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 02:16 PM

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I have been experimenting and researching for many years. A friend [now deceased] who knew of my method for preserving the veil visited a friend of his whom exports matsutake. I do not know if his friend discovered the same method on his own but suffice to say he was doing a conveyor processing shrink-wrap version of it after my friend left. I am a bit of inventor and in the mid 80's developed a method of gold dredging recovery that is environmentally feasible and cheap to build, every thing needed can often be purchased at the local hardware store. Even the Bureau of Mines came by where I was working and took photographs.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 01:21 PM

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Fishgod; the plan for many years has been to write my activities in adventure stories, but never got around to it. ...... Last year was a good one for me, I found matsutake everywhere I checked in central Oregon on my three day commercial permit, then went to Washington to check my yellow chanty and bolete patches . But then I wasn't selling so it was not necessary to watch for worms, I have a method for their removal. By the time I got back to southern Arizona about two weeks later I placed some of the matsi bags in the fridge for a period of maybe two weeks longer, I need to check my research journal; all of my #1's were still tight with full veil & I took pictures, sliced & finished drying them just prior to having my stroke. When I first researched this method it was for removing hoppy bugs and worms from morels; in my research I have picked in Diamond Lake area and sold in Randle Washington in an experiment two weeks later, #1 matsutake. I have shared my method with a few friends over the years, the secret is to cut of the air and keep them cold.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 11:03 AM

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Didn't see the last couple of sentences in your post, when I saw the stroke part I kinda focused on that part(I'm bad that way) anyway, you answered the question. On another note its great to see that some of our people seem to be having a great year. I will go with my gut and say the best is yet to come in my area. Next couple of weeks things will get crazy good with shrooms. You can all poke fun at me if I'm wrong! In lower mainland and Fraser valley I have found chanties are best late oct and right into early dec. white chanties (my fave)being much heartier go later than golden ones. Like mentioned before I have picked whites when it snows!


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 10:53 AM

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Lobo, I can't imagine the challenge it must be to suffer a stroke. With all the things you have done in your life have you considered writing an autobiography?(including mushroom stories of coarse)


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 08:52 AM

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Fishgod; It has been an amazing manic ride. When I was running the circuit I was known as manic john because of my inability to stay in one place and pick. Of course it made me able to jump from site to site doing research on thousands of mushroom areas from BC to SoCal. Now after one year having the stroke I am slowed down considerably and have only about 1/4 usage of my former self. I need to get busy writing my memoirs before it all fades away.


User_Name: koots
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 07:44 AM

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Hi all, heading to my old stomping grounds around Kaslo on kootenay lake this weekend to see how the pines are doing...suspect they need a day or two of wet and we could see a nice bumped crop. Question: anyone know of buyers in the kootenay or Vancouver area? Anyone have prices this year for the matsutakes?


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 07:02 AM

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Counter 24 Hour count 455. Matsiman


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 06:59 AM

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Added a buyer to the year round list.
http://matsiman.com/bypiccontact/year_round_in_seasin_buyers.htm
Matsiman


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 06:43 AM

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Thanks to all for sharing.
 
Mad Morel, You should change your user name to "Mad Morel and Chantie Nut". You seam to always have a good season in Chanties. Got a question. Are things dry when you pick. Sounds like it hot, but is it dry also.
 
The reason I ask is because my study partner and I have noticed hot weather is beneficial to chanties. Just an observation, curious to hear if what we see is connected to chantie production.
 
Talked with the president of NAMA (North American Mycological Society) in about 2001 at a lecture my study partner and I presented. The lecture was given at one of their forays at Diamond Lake. She said she had a model similar to mine on Chanties. We didn't have time to talk more about her model, but she said it worked.
Matsiman

User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 06:20 AM

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Korea Picker1101, Welcome to the board. Your post may help some of us understand why prices are so low. Keep posting cause all of us want to know more about matsi in your country. Matsiman


User_Name: Mad morel
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 03:17 AM

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This has been a year for many dry weather mushrooms the like the high temps that we are having. My first yellow chanterelle was on 7-7-2014and the best dam patch has been putting on all summer with more then I could pick and it still going and going and going. The patch is about 80 yards long and about 55 yards wide and I have picked about 600 hundred lbs so fare this years and it is still putting more new baby chanterelles on and the weather is still holding on to vary warm day's to just warm 70's( H) to 80's(L) with med 40's at night. Some of you my ask where I live and I'll just say eastern sloops of the Cascades of Washington. Boletes Joe, I do believe you are right about one thing and that is when this heat wave end's The matsutake well be out standing and maybe the best year have ever seen and I could be wrong but many years I have seen them pop out of the ground as if a fire was burnning under them. Honey mushrooms are going wild over here like I never seen before and the White Russula's have been popping up everwhere unreal. One more week and we all well find out how well the matsutake and labster's and chanterelles well last with ran sometime med week of next week. hedgehog's (sweetooth) have been better then I every seen them here before so get out and enjoy it because the good weather may not last very much long.


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 01:11 AM

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For all of the pickers getting skunked I suggest going in the high cascades. Somewhere between mount Jefferson and Saint helens. I an tell you that this is one of the few years I have found Chanterelles and Matstaukes growing with in feet of each other. Not to mention angel wings and at least 17 other mushroom types. I know just about all of them but I think you all can figure out witch ones. The ground was several times way more moist than I expected. MY Advice is upper cascades for you all in Oregon and Washington. GOOD luck.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 12:59 AM

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Lobo, sounds like you have had some amazing experiences!


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 12:54 AM

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By the way I have found more since last weekend. I thought MATSI'S would be shot this year? Sometimes I like to be wrong;*)


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 12:39 AM

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Hope you're right B Joe.


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Friday October 10, 2014
Time: 12:37 AM

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Anyone else have any idea why all of the wildlife and or the insects and worms avoid Chanterelles but go after almost any other mushrooms even Aminitas? There are only a handful of of other mushrooms they seem to ignore. like early spring false Morels .


User_Name: Boletus Joe
Date: Thursday October 09, 2014
Time: 11:07 PM

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I have a question, or maybe an observation..... Relates to the weather/climate..... Here on the west coast we are having an amazing season for Cauliflower and Lobster mushrooms. In the past I would be lucky if I found one Cauliflower in a week. This year I keep tripping over them. As for Lobster the quality here has always been keep 15% throw the rest away. Now I am able to keep 60-70%. Channies OTOH..... Well this looks like a ONE crop year. There has been one big late flush and no signs of a second flush coming. Now I am sure this all has to do with the long hot dry spell we have had..... But this is the 3rd year that this has been trending. Now we are about to loose about 3-4 degrees Celsius in our day time temp and I am going to go out on a limb here...... But I think all hell is about to break out with the Matsi's in the next week........


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Thursday October 09, 2014
Time: 11:06 PM

Messages

Oops, old man memory. It was in 1973 that I was sent to Korea, in September 1974 I was carrying my elk out of Pete King Creek in north Idaho and then on to be stationed in Spain for two years. How I loved hiking and fishing those two countries. It was a Capital Offense for some people to cut a tree or its branches in Korea so I surmise that the short Ponderosa Pines I saw in 73 are now mature enough for matsutake growth. It seems to me that the 9 kings tombs area would have been good for matsutake because the war did not devastate that area.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Thursday October 09, 2014
Time: 10:58 PM

Messages

From what I have read, matsutake of Korea are different than the ones we harvest. Korea picker1101, may I ask if there are other mushrooms in your area which you harvest? Do you have chanterelles, morels and such varieties?


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Thursday October 09, 2014
Time: 10:28 PM

Messages

Korea Picker1101; good to see a person from Korea on the board, I truly enjoyed my time there. I never hunted mushrooms while I was stationed at K-55 back in 1974-1975 but I did travel a lot on the buses and trains. I saw elk antlers sitting on bales of seaweed outside a shop in Suwon City and asked the owner where they had come from and he said they were from the mountains up near the ski resort. Down in the lower mountains where I hiked the ponderosa trees were (after the war) planted in rows and no more than 15 to 20 feet tall.


User_Name: Kootenaybrother
Date: Thursday October 09, 2014
Time: 08:02 PM

Messages

Major rain event in the forecast maybe one last kick at the bucket for the season in Nakusp.Good times in the bush!!


User_Name: Korea Picker1101
Date: Thursday October 09, 2014
Time: 07:56 PM

Messages

Very interesting website and info. Matsutake have very good season with wet weather this year in Korea. Unfortunately that means more carrying and less price -_- Has growing season been good in west coast North America?


User_Name: Orizaba
Date: Thursday October 09, 2014
Time: 07:36 PM

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Looks like rain soon in NW Oregon. Looking for Chanterelle Pickers and folks preparing for Winter Mushrooms. (Hedgehogs, Yellowfoot, Black Trumpet.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Thursday October 09, 2014
Time: 05:14 PM

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Chilliwack, Thank you for your update also. I have always found later oct to mid nov to be prime time in that region. Also on parts of vacouver island. I will keep everyone posted when I make it out too. Folks seem to worry sometimes about sharing reports but truth is we all follow different trails and no two pairs of eyes are the same. Personally on a number of occasions I have walked areas that pickers have just been through an still find plenty of buttons cause the buggers can hide really well!


User_Name: from Chilliwack
Date: Thursday October 09, 2014
Time: 04:21 PM

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Hello, Today I drove up to Boston bar to look for any, spend 3 hours climbing up and did not find a single one! The soil is well moist. It seems too soon in the saison! Over the Nahatlatch river a brige will be close for repair from October 20 to the end of the month. There will be noway to go across for 2 weeks.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Thursday October 09, 2014
Time: 02:18 PM

Messages

Phantom, thanks for the update. Was going to head up there this weekend but will hold off for a week or so due to your update. If Fred's not there yet it means it ain't happening. Wonder if he's still in Nakusp? Will give him a shout maybe. Take care and be safe!


User_Name: PHantom picker
Date: Thursday October 09, 2014
Time: 12:56 PM

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Selkie,I have fellow pickers in the hope and Boston Bar area and to let you know the Boston Bar area has verry little coming out the buyer there is lucky to get a basket of ones per night. The hope area is a little better but nothing to brag about. There's one buyer at each place and fred is not there yet. I hope this helps you.good luck to all and be safe.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Thursday October 09, 2014
Time: 11:15 AM

Messages

I guess it ought to be said that morels are also to be found in SoCal, New Mexico, Texas, Old Mexico and points south, unless it freezes them out. In areas that do not freeze hard, morels sometimes are found until it warms up again in the more northerly latitudes, be sure to look beside the cactus; love those cactus morels which have been seen from San Diego to Texas. Sorry no exact locations.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Thursday October 09, 2014
Time: 10:26 AM

Messages

horacewayne; I wish to apologize for my quick and not well thought out response. You are to be congratulated for finding morels when so many others cannot. Arizona is different from areas northward in that the spring natural morels are found at times, as well as in the fall, look under Sycamores in spring. Fire morels and king boletus (white & brown) are mainly a product dependent upon Monsoon season. Congratulations on your findings, just be careful about involvements that might leave you with regrets.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Thursday October 09, 2014
Time: 10:20 AM

Messages

Lobo, Amen to your last post. Those who deal with Chris beware. Matsiman


User_Name: fresh picker
Date: Thursday October 09, 2014
Time: 09:55 AM

Messages

i need a mushroom buyer in powell river the pines are starting to pop up and i've already got a few and some chanterelles i even found a few pigs ears so please someone let me know if theres any buyers around yet i don't have a car this year to go looking all around for buyers


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Thursday October 09, 2014
Time: 09:32 AM

Messages

Selkie, call buyer Fred (250)315 8367 he sets up at silver creek in Hope and should be there now. Good luck. Do me a favour please. Once you get to the area could you let me know how it is? I do not sell and only pick for my table and for fun so won't be competing for your wages. Thanks in advance. P.s Fred will tell you also of buyers on the island I'm sure.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Thursday October 09, 2014
Time: 09:16 AM

Messages

matsiman; as you are aware it is in the spring when this board gets the most morel questions. Now is the time for fire morels down here but it may get hammered if Chris comes and starts filming. ...... horacewayne; tell your friends but to those of us who have had dealings with Chris we would advise against it. Ask mad morel or king morel Randy Marchand or myself who have had photographs & writings plagiarized in his book or those who have been short-changed when conducting a foray. ...... He may have mellowed over the years but it even though I forgave him there have been enough occurrences since to make me believe that it is true the old saying that a leopard can't disguise itself by attempting to change it's spots. ....... If he was truly repentant he would make it right with all those he has screwed instead of making excuses.


User_Name: horacewayne
Date: Thursday October 09, 2014
Time: 08:31 AM

Messages

fall morels in Arizona! but not like in Wa state or Montana.....gave Matherly a pic-will be going out more


User_Name: Selkie79
Date: Thursday October 09, 2014
Time: 08:16 AM

Messages

Does anyone have any contacts for buyers in the Hope/Boston Bar area or Vancouver Island? Thank you just sorting out the timing from apple picking to fungi foraging. Cheers. Good luck to all.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Thursday October 09, 2014
Time: 07:04 AM

Messages

Heads up Southwest Oregon and Northern California mushroom people. The beginning of next week will bring weather to begin formation conditions for matsi. Historically the middle of October has been the best time frame for formation of good crops.

Watch for moderate warming after the forecast cooling. A 5 to 10 degree warming for a couple weeks will mean a good crop. Matsiman


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Thursday October 09, 2014
Time: 06:56 AM

Messages

Counter 24 Hour count 407. Matsiman


User_Name: zypheria
Date: Thursday October 09, 2014
Time: 01:33 AM

Messages

is there good picking im kootenrys or nuskip


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Wednesday October 08, 2014
Time: 09:22 PM

Messages

Lobo, you shared a recipe! Thanks, that's awesome and will try it. The only think I like as much as picking is eating the darned things! We have many great and quality people on this board and I feel lucky and honoured to be here.Thank you Matsiman for all your hard work in creating and maintaining your site for us and also graciously sharing your valuable knowledge and encouraging others to do the same.


User_Name: fresh picker
Date: Wednesday October 08, 2014
Time: 08:56 PM

Messages

is there any mushroom buyers in powell river right now and where are they located thank you and have a great night


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Wednesday October 08, 2014
Time: 08:28 PM

Messages

Lobo, Thanks for the offer. I'm sure there are many who will ask. Nice to have someone with your experience and knowledge. I'm dumb as a rock when it comes to morels. Matsiman


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Wednesday October 08, 2014
Time: 07:51 PM

Messages

I suppose it ought to be stated that I will continue to help newbies and others who ask fire morel questions, like before. If I do not know the answer I will say so. As previously stated I greatly appreciate what I have learned concerning matsitake mushrooms from matsiman even prior to his creating this site, he indeed helped me better hunt and understand this great fungi which are indeed yummy sliced, then grilled and dipped in Tamarra Sauce.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Wednesday October 08, 2014
Time: 07:07 PM

Messages

Phantom picker, Just replied to your email. Think I found why the others didn't make it. The email address on your message has no capital C the email you first gave has. Not sure if that was the problem.


User_Name: freshpicker
Date: Wednesday October 08, 2014
Time: 06:28 PM

Messages

this year is horrible all my chantrell patches are just bare i usually get 30 pounds out of the one patch this year i only got about 3 pounds


User_Name: freshpicker
Date: Wednesday October 08, 2014
Time: 06:26 PM

Messages

does anyone know what time the buyers are open till in powell river


User_Name: Jazzzame
Date: Wednesday October 08, 2014
Time: 06:11 PM

Messages

I just had to post to say "thank you" to all that have helped Stephanie in her quest! That really warmed my heart to know you would help her out like you have! I too have been there, done that, and have felt her need. Thankfully God blessed me with many Truffles to sell, and then lead me down the other mushroom trails. Now, I am a happy, healthy, rich with blessings shroomer (not commercially), who also enjoys helping others both forage for food, AND protect the forest at the same time. Thanks for all you do, and thanks for the site Matsi!


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Wednesday October 08, 2014
Time: 05:39 PM

Messages

Phantom picker, just sent another email. I copy pasted your address from the other message board. Best way to assure I have the right address is to email me, Then I just hit reply. Matsiman


User_Name: Phantom picker
Date: Wednesday October 08, 2014
Time: 04:27 PM

Messages

Matsiman,I still did not get your e-mail.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Wednesday October 08, 2014
Time: 01:31 PM

Messages

Steve from Oregon; Yepper it’s amazing how someone can do a little bit of research in an area and then postulate that their findings apply essentially to everywhere. I have researched hundreds of burn sites to compile my research. Once when I sent corrective information about fire morel research in a private Email to six “PhD types who’s names appear on many government papers” instead of discussing it with me, my computer was attacked and somehow remotely destroyed. Now I figure let them make fools of themselves, lead people astray and I keep most of my research to myself until I publish, when I get a voice activated keyboard. With my stroke it has taken a more than half an hour to type just this much.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Wednesday October 08, 2014
Time: 10:50 AM

Messages

I neglected to tell those who have ask for forecast templates and I offered help in working them. Whatever you share with me is private information. If you choose to share info with others, it's your decision, I won't. Matsiman


User_Name: garf
Date: Wednesday October 08, 2014
Time: 08:03 AM

Messages

i remember one day going to an early patch and found it to be just dug ,,,unreal the havoc that was created by deer digging and then the huges patches that even dug up and moss everywhere that i hadn't seen to this extent before .. i soon found bear sign and lo and behold there was still a bear in the patch. Man did they ever dig a lot.. if the mushrooms are showing it isnt as bad but these were mostly buried buttons and they were eager to get a feed . I have found that if deer are raking up the ground big time there is invaribly buried buttons or soon will be. They do miss just like us.. poor season here for me... at least so far. full buckets .


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Wednesday October 08, 2014
Time: 07:46 AM

Messages

Counter 24 hour count 410. Matsiman


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Wednesday October 08, 2014
Time: 06:42 AM

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Phantom picker and northern, My bad. I emailed both of you, but got the address wrong. I have sent replies again.
 
Steve from oregon, WOW, guess you needed to get some thoughts out in the open. These PHD types can be rather condescending. They think they know more than the people who hit the ground and learn from hands on experience. They certainly have more book learning and in some cases can help understanding what we see. I have been working with a few of them for 20 years. In the beginning they treated me with little respect. Took about 10 years to gain their respect. Some still think I'm  off the wall.
 
Don't let them get to you. You know what you know and that's that. If they aren't open enough to accept your contributions, it's their loss. Everybody has something to add. No matter how unbelievable your contribution is, it's still worth investigation.
 
Matsiman

User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Wednesday October 08, 2014
Time: 12:35 AM

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For now on I will try to find a way to share this site especially with sincerely nice newbies and cut out the wannabe know it all's.


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Wednesday October 08, 2014
Time: 12:31 AM

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My irritation is not directed towards this site just idiots on other sites not that they are all idiots morons plain dumb F's.


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Wednesday October 08, 2014
Time: 12:26 AM

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The chat room controls the language figure it out for yourself.


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Wednesday October 08, 2014
Time: 12:24 AM

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I gotta get something off my chest. I have met Botanists mushroom professors mycologests ect. I have yet met to meet one that could candle to the peeps on the field. Such as Lobo Matsiman or mad morel. I myself refuse to share any more of my knowledge with these people unless they get out in the bush. Get the Full out of the classroom and learn real ship yourself! !!!!!!!


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Tuesday October 07, 2014
Time: 10:14 PM

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It might sound crazy but I have found Chanterelles ripped out of the ground and tossed into the trees. I am fairly sure that it must of been dear or bears as I have seen this in the deep wood's no sign of human prints just mainly scars on the trees from antlers rubbing.


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Tuesday October 07, 2014
Time: 10:05 PM

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Fish, Congratulations on all of those Salmon. I have also fished as far back as I can remember and know it takes skill and patience to land Salmon on the regular basis well maybe a bit of luck also ;). I have been wondering this for years does anyone have a theory on why the worms and critters leave chanterelles alone. As we all know they can't get enough of the boletes and matstaukes.


User_Name: Phantom picker
Date: Tuesday October 07, 2014
Time: 10:01 PM

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Matsiman,did not get your e-mail. My e-mail only has one capital and it's at the beginning. Just incase that's why it didn't work.


User_Name: Zed
Date: Tuesday October 07, 2014
Time: 09:28 PM

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Fish god it is really nice to read someone giving a newbie some genuine advice. I have been in the game about 25 years and I learn something new every year. I always look at my fruitless scouting hikes not as failures but 1. As good exercise and 2. As successfully ruling that area out ( for the season). Lol....zed


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Tuesday October 07, 2014
Time: 08:57 PM

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Phantom picker, Didn't get your email. I have my spam filters at max cause I get 75 t0 100 spams a day. They are deleted on the server immediately. Probably got stuck there. I did email you after finding you message on the what you want board. Matsiman


User_Name: Phantom picker
Date: Tuesday October 07, 2014
Time: 08:36 PM

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Matsiman,did you receive my e-mail?


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Tuesday October 07, 2014
Time: 07:23 PM

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Also, don't feel badly or unskilled if you see individuals bringing hundreds at a time, these people are well seasoned expert professional harvesters who have usually been doing it for years. Work hard and smart, if one area doesn't work, search another. It's like fishing, if you're in the wrong spot you'll never catch a fish so try another.different lure=different terrain. Mix it up till you hit a good patch


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Tuesday October 07, 2014
Time: 07:15 PM

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Stephanie, I know where a lot are picked in that area but where many folks pick is in an area that is illegal to pick unless you are native indian status. If you are non-native they will catch and fine you so it's not worth it to go there IMO. Go to Skinnys grill parking lot and ask for buyer Fred, tell him you know Jamie and ask him to give you an idea of where to go. It's in his best interest to point you in the right direction.I would tell you to find south-south west facing mountain sides with mossy ground and medium sized old growth trees with filtered light(preferably with clear cut areas on one or more sides and then.........climb like a mountain goat, no kidding, traverse upwards, side to side. Covering different elevation is key but work one mountain side at a time thoroughly. Good luck and don't give up.......hit the mountains!


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Tuesday October 07, 2014
Time: 06:34 PM

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Stephanie, There are a few pages here you could read. First, http://matsiman.com/tips.htm

Then http://matsiman.com/booklet/matsutake_booklet.htm Has mostly what is in the first link only you can print and make a booklet. Also http://matsiman.com/introduction.htm which is the basics. Follow the links at the bottom of each page.

Good luck and take Kootenaybrother advice. "Keep on walking ridges and road sides can be good, keep on exploring terrain."

Matsiman


User_Name: Kootenaybrother
Date: Tuesday October 07, 2014
Time: 06:08 PM

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Keep on walking ridges and road sides can be good,keep on exploring terrain.some of these highballer mushroom Pickers have been tro ping the bush for years!Every year I hit new terrain,finding new patches every year since the early 90 s!Diversify lobsters, hedgehogs,chanterelles,cauliflower,blue chanterelles,matsutake ,Salale,rose hips,wild fruit trees,FIREWOOD!,preserve and dehydrate,hunting and fishing,wild ginger,gold panning ,good times in the bush!Paid vacation forageing in the bush!


User_Name: Stephanie
Date: Tuesday October 07, 2014
Time: 02:32 PM

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Hi There, I was hoping for a little help or some nuggets of advise. This is my first year Pine mushroom picking, I love being in nature and am working hard for a couple things my kids need. I cant seem to find a good area. I have been out for three days and each day only finding 2-6 of them. The buyers are telling me there are some people coming in with hundreds a day. I must be doing something wrong. I am aware of the Hemlock trees, the terrain to look for etc. I am in the skagit area and able to go to boston bar if there would be better results. Just not too sure what Im doing wrong, Would love to keep this passion alive and find some success at it. I know people dont like to share there locations, if you dont live in the area anymore and can share any info please let me know. My email is mychallengehome@gmail.com I will kindly email 10% of anything I make back to anyone who can tell me where to look. Thanks so much in advance to you all, I have been reading your posts to keep inspired. Cheers


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Tuesday October 07, 2014
Time: 11:02 AM

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Mushroom Poet, Thanks for the update. Sounds like a small flush, anyway enough to keep up your interest. Matsiman


User_Name: Mushroom Poet
Date: Tuesday October 07, 2014
Time: 10:48 AM

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The price in the Nass Valley was 12 bucks a pound for matsutake yesterday. This was up from 9 bucks the day before. Sadly though, I found several brown brittle mushrooms and some moldies after work but still picked 25 pounds. Happy picking to you all.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Tuesday October 07, 2014
Time: 07:38 AM

Messages

Counter 24 hour count 504. Matsiman


User_Name: ~NorthIdaho~
Date: Tuesday October 07, 2014
Time: 02:11 AM

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Matsiman, If it's not to much of a bother I would be in great debt to you, if I could trouble you for a templet for myself? Thank you My email logtrucking.bb@gmail.com


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Monday October 06, 2014
Time: 11:48 PM

Messages

So nice that we can pick mushrooms and go fishing n stuff. We are lucky to have these activities at our disposal. There are people on this earth who have never seen a tree let alone pick a shroom or catch a fish. We have it pretty darned good!


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Monday October 06, 2014
Time: 11:40 PM

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Steve, sounds like you just strained your knee. If the pain is at the back of the knee, (back of leg at joint), just take it easy for a few days. If pain is on the front you should probably take it a bit easier from now on. Btw all.......went fishing again today. Gave away another 2 chinook(king) salmon. Was targeting Coho (silver) salmon. Hooked 10 or so and landed none! Slippery bastards! Oh well, was still a beautiful day and heaps of fun.


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Monday October 06, 2014
Time: 09:44 PM

Messages

Shroomer, I have read that reshi, has the same qualities medical wise. What is your opinion also I am in Oregon email Sonicstv21@msn.com.


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Monday October 06, 2014
Time: 09:31 PM

Messages

Hi all, No my didn't swell that much but the pain was definitely in the joint. I haven't hiked that rough of trails since last year. My legs were getting twisted in all directions lol


User_Name: shroomer
Date: Monday October 06, 2014
Time: 08:27 PM

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steve,this winter get yourself some chaGA. its a winter pick only. must be picked at coldest time of the year.,,,minus 30 /s is good for the quality.....makes the best medication..don/t pick in warmer temps as the quality is very poor. heard about the guy in the zoo.. bought way to early.ouch,thats going to hurt the pocket book ...if your interest insome email me r2421@citywest.ca you/ll be up in no time...and pain free ,,,no other meds required...no bs... plenty up north here.see I/m a chaga harvester......helped out many of people with my product...if you live in Canada,we can get it to you,,sorry no export liscence for the states .....sure helping the early with joint pains.like a fountain of youth...rebuilds.....jewel of the forest


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Monday October 06, 2014
Time: 08:00 PM

Messages

Understood Matsiman, and appreciated. I am not particularly great on a pc but can manage. Please do send me a template if you don't mind. I will send my email to the say what you want board if that's ok and if that's how you plan to send it.thank you!


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Monday October 06, 2014
Time: 06:58 PM

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Fisgod, Want to answer your question about sending me data.
 
Data collection is the first step in any analysis. The collector needs to follow a strict line of methods. How you pick (harvest method), where you pick (must be the same patches every time you gather info), and recording that info. If someone else is picking the same patches, your info won't be complete.
 
Not really to complicated, but if not followed, the info gathered is less useful and can change final analysis.
 
Do you have Excel or any spread sheet program? It's the best way to record and analyze. I can send you the template file to enter the info. You just need to know how to use two formulas, average and sum.
 
I would rather you do the investigation. You can't learn if somebody else does the work. I will guide you through if need be, but I think you can handle it. I'll make the same offer to anyone else interested in doing their own analysis in their area.
 
Matsiman

User_Name: Fisgod
Date: Monday October 06, 2014
Time: 11:51 AM

Messages

Steve, when my knee acts up(usually the right but sometimes the left) it literally swells like a balloon with fluid. Is this what happens with yours?


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Monday October 06, 2014
Time: 11:40 AM

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Matsiman, When I go picking I will start keeping notes and also track of temps. Also, there is a buyer who I call sometimes to get info. I will keep track of that too. may i pass all that info along to you ?


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Monday October 06, 2014
Time: 11:31 AM

Messages

Steve, a tensor bandage could take off some of the pressure but don't use all the time and never while you sleep. Low impact exercise such as light weights on a leg machine at a gym can build muscle to take the strain off the cartilage. Ice will help with swelling along with Advil for pain. Supplements like calcium, vitamin e, d and b12 can be helpful. Fish oils. Glucosamine worked very well for me. As far as foot ware goes, something with good arch support and memory foam insert could be a good choice. Most important thing is to avoid high-impact activity like running. If you climb uphill, take your time and go gently and slowly. Hope this helps


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Monday October 06, 2014
Time: 07:51 AM

Messages

Counter 24 Hour Count 507. Matsiman


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Monday October 06, 2014
Time: 05:54 AM

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Fishgod, Yes there is a low where the soils in your area loose the ability to form as well as a hi where soils are not cool enough to produce. That's why previous years info is needed.
 
Lets say you have a formation pattern in late summer or early fall. The lowest temps from the weather station you use, 3 day average, is 65F. You find no mushrooms. Then there is another cooling to 63F. You find mushrooms after formation pattern indicates some are formed. Then 63F is likely the hi end of possible formation temps. The same holds true for the low end. Maybe at 52F you have a formation with mushrooms. The next cooling is 51F and formation temps, but few or no mushrooms. Then it is likely 52F is the bottom end.
 
The important element is the weather station. If it doesn't emulate the temps for the drainage, it won't work.
 
Models have a reputation for not working. Most say crap in, crap out. So if you don't put good info in, you won't get good info out.
 
Soil temps are not as readily available as air temps. Air temps won't give you actual soil temps, but can give you an idea what soils are doing. So far works for me and others who have used the model.
 
Matsiman

User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Monday October 06, 2014
Time: 01:43 AM

Messages

Hi. Carla good too Se you back and hope all is well. Some of my patches are nearly 3 weeks late. I will see about the coast plan on going again in the next few weeks. I was there in the pacific area around the pelican place. Found some lobsters and amanitas but that was all.


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Monday October 06, 2014
Time: 01:24 AM

Messages

By the way I left most of the flags to spore out. Also my backpack has very small openings. Can't say for sure but some of those spores may take hold. I have seen similar things in the past when you are in the right environment.


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Monday October 06, 2014
Time: 01:13 AM

Messages

Fish any good suggestions on shoes and or boots? What about knee wraps?


User_Name: Carla
Date: Monday October 06, 2014
Time: 01:09 AM

Messages

Hi Steve! Hi Fishgod! Good too see some familiar faces around here :-)


User_Name: Carla
Date: Monday October 06, 2014
Time: 01:08 AM

Messages

Lobo, that would be fantastic!


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 11:27 PM

Messages

Steve, yes mushroom hunting can be bloody hard work. Careful with the knee, my knees are buggered from working like a dog for most of my life. My Mom had a knee replacement 2 years ago. When I am hard on mine they swell like balloons. Just take care of them and be sure to wear really good shoes with support in them!


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 11:22 PM

Messages

Hi Carla good to see you alive and well you as well lobo aka morel loving teddy bear ;)


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 11:14 PM

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My knee is bothering me I almost thought I would have a problem getting back to my car. I wish the back roads weren't torn up with all the dug holes but I understand why. That with steep slopes almost need a rope.


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 10:59 PM

Messages

Apologize for the double message cut and paste would not work some kind o's software conflict.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 10:56 PM

Messages

Yes, late oct-mid nov have always been most productive for me. Thank you for taking the time and working the forecast. Is there a low temp or difference in low and high that would suggest when it's game over? Air temp of coarse. I gather its also perhaps dependant on soil temps?


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 10:56 PM

Messages

Well had a decent day not the best or worst. Found 6 pounds of MATSI'S had to work for them ;). I did see at least 20 different mushrooms surprisingly enough the area was moist. I didn't take the time to take pictures of all of them my mind was on the Matstauke 


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 10:54 PM

Messages

Well had a decent day not the best or worst. Found 6 pounds of MATSI'S had to work for them ;). About quarter of the ones I picked we're #1 buttons passed a lot of flagged out ones. Got some boletes and chanti's as


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 10:38 PM

Messages

Thanks Matsiman, I will keep you posted once I get out there!


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 09:06 PM

Messages

Fishgod, Finish the model. From what I can tell with no previous years temp data and no pounds picked, You had a flush about the first week in Sept. You then made another small crop you are picking now. You have reached a lower temp than before so you have a chance for another crop.
 
Not looking good though. Temps aren't rising and probably won't have enough time to form before the next cooling. Then again, the next cooling will start things all over as long as the soils don't get to cold. Seen  as many as 5 formation chances in one fall.
 
If you say you have until November, then there is still plenty of time to form.
 
Matsiman

User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 07:59 PM

Messages

That's awesome Matsiman! I searched government websites and others and simply could not find anything similar. I added the link you posted to home screen on iphone.As you can see we have had a very long run of hot, dry weather.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 07:19 PM

Messages

Hello Carla, good to see you again. My wife is taking a vacation with her daughter, along the coast this week from the Olympics through California and then back to Arizona. Wish I could do the trip also and stop in to see you.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 07:09 PM

Messages

Fishgod, Found the data needed. http://www.weather.com/weather/monthly/CAXX0192?month=-1 I'm going to start in September and go from there. Should find out something starting that far back.

With this weather data source, I can check anywhere in Canada this source has weather archives.

Matsiman


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 05:58 PM

Messages

It's kinda earie to find one


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 05:57 PM

Messages

Kooteneybrother, Are the waste piles of old gold mines? It's so cool to see any only mines, they sometimes just abandon them with equipment, old vehicles and everything. It's like they said "k boys, drop everything lets go home" and leave a ghost camp.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 05:51 PM

Messages

The highest daytime temperature for the next 7 days is 73.4 F and lowest night is 48.2 F. Sunny for the most part till next Sat. Each day and night temp will be within a couple of degrees of those numbers.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 05:32 PM

Messages

http://mw.theweathernetwork.com/fivedayforecast/cabc0138 Matsiman, I know your internet is slow but hopefully you can load the link ok. If not i am happy to give you a daily report. The link is for the whole week in Hope bc. It's in Celsius .


User_Name: Kootenaybrother
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 05:23 PM

Messages

Talked to a local today, to my surprise he found blue chanterelles yesterday on a local trail . Gonna scope out the trail tomorrow , should be interesting there's some old mining relics in the area , if I find some edibles, I wonder where the old mining tailings pile are, all things considered, walking the dogs good times in the bush!!


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 04:38 PM

Messages

Fishgod, cool down is absolutely necessary. That is the beginning point, What follows determines if mushrooms are formed or not.
 
There is a possibility of forming until soils in all patches are too cool to begin process.
 
I need daily hi and low, or the average for that day. Matsiman

User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 01:59 PM

Messages

Matsiman, will do my best however, can't seem to find the last cool down. If I keep you updated on coming weather trend would this help. Will keep searching for last cool down. In my humble experience the best time in my region for matsi is late oct to mid Nov. I actually have a gut-feeling this year could be good. I have picked beautiful white chanties right into December before in the snow lol!


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 01:43 PM

Messages

Fishgod, If you can get the temps starting from the last cool down, and continue sending them till the next, I'll run the model and see what is says for the future this year. If it hasn't gotton too cold, I believe there is a chance for another flush. Each cooling presents a chance for another crop. That is until the soils cool beyond the temperature to be able to form a crop. It ain't over till it's over. Matsiman


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 01:26 PM

Messages

Phantom, In the Fraser valley and Hope area of B.C. I'm sure the mushrooms will be in the same condition. In the coming week the lowest overnight temp. Is only going down to 9 Celsius (48 f) those temps certainly do spell worms. I will hold off picking till it cools down. Will go fishing instead though the lack of rain has left us with low and clear rivers which can also be a challenge. Hi Carla, nice to see you again and hope all is well!


User_Name: Carla
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 01:01 PM

Messages

Good Morning Peeps! I hope everyone is starting to find some white gold out there. There is still nothing popping in my area, which is the Oregon coast. I heard about one or two people starting to find nice stuff over in Canada. So congrats to you fellas!


User_Name: Phantom picker
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 12:54 PM

Messages

Went out early this morning to a patch that I haven't been to in 5yrs. Started going down the hill and man it was looking good. I could see lines of pines as far down as I could wawhoo I thought untill I got to them, lines of 15 to 20 mushrooms and then the thrill was gone, only 2 or 3 good mushrooms out of each line what a bummer man. Ended up with 3lbs out of maybe 100 or so mushrooms, it's still to warm we need some cool weather and untill then they'll be worms. Left a lot of babies but I'm not going to keep high hopes for them. Even the bumps that I thought were going to be good we're mush. Even the ones that feel hard have some worms in them when you cut to Chek. Untill the cool weather gets here it isn't looking very promising. The weather station is pridicting sun and warm days and nights all week so I think I'm going to take some time off to catch up on other things. Good luck and be safe.


User_Name: northerntour
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 11:24 AM

Messages

Hi everyone. I e-mailed Mike the Lake Cowichan, Van Island buyer for an update. The following is Mike's response "Paying $3.50 for yellow chanterelles. Not many coming in. Need more rain. Only a few small areas producing some."


User_Name: rover
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 10:01 AM

Messages

Anyone have prices for the cranberry and are any buyers open thanks


User_Name: Boletus Joe
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 09:57 AM

Messages

What can I say, This sight has more info about Masutake, the 10 others put together. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink......... The thing is that a good majority of the people that visit are only interested in the "QUICK" dollar. And do not take the time to do any digging...(for info) How many pople always expect someone else to do all their work for them.... I think it is a generational thing. anyone below the age of 45 has grown up in the (information) age, and yet expects to be spoon fed for the most part. I could go on and on.... but I have a few little babies out there that I have to check on before the ripping crew find them..... have a great day...... And THANK YOU Andy for all you wonderful work.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 07:19 AM

Messages

Counter 23 hour count,441. Matsiman


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 05:17 AM

Messages

Fishgod, Said it before. Most come to the board without investigating the rest of the site. I tried to provide enough info from various origins to give people enough to allow each individual to arrive at his or her own conclusions. I will do what I can to help clarify what they read, but there is some technical stuff I don't understand.

Yes there is far more info yet to be discovered not mentioned in these pages, but still allot contained within them.

 
There are allot of intelligent visitors here. They don't need anyone to lead them down any path to conclusions. Read what is here and decide for yourself.
 
Good one Steve from oregon.
Matsiman

User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 12:59 AM

Messages

I have found mushrooms under tarps before. I think it holds in the condensation. But be careful pulled up a tarp last week and found some angry homeless guy.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Sunday October 05, 2014
Time: 12:20 AM

Messages

"Once it's gone it's gone" folks, there may never be another 95-97 crop or maybe there will be. Either way the "King pin" buyers will screw you again and again. I hear so many stories of "not worth the gas" even on a supposedly good year. The days of making money on mushrooms are over.......thing of the past. Lets get back to basics and hunt for mushrooms for the pleasure of it rather than trying to make an impossible buck for the benefit of rich people we have never met. Mushroom hunting is a passion, a kinship with nature and an uncanny ability to spot a golden chanterelle while driving, drinking a coffee and telling your kid to quiet down all at the same time. This world is completely absorbed with dollars. Our mushroom friends don't need to be part of it. We should be careful with what we have cause once its gone.....it's gone


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Saturday October 04, 2014
Time: 11:34 PM

Messages

Matsiman, Thanks, I have been reading the links you posted and will continue to do so, there's a lot to absorb in there! I came to this forum to chat with fellow mushroom people and didn't take the the time to investigate the information your site has to offer, put the cart before the horse so to speek! From what I've read so far it appears there is still much to be learned and that's a good thing for all!


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Saturday October 04, 2014
Time: 10:23 PM

Messages

Fishgod, You need to do some more reading on this site. Most of the questions are answered on the site. Here is a link that is the beginning of the basics you see next to banner, top right. http://matsiman.com/introduction.htm
 
There is much more detailed info on a verity of matsutake needs in the http://matsiman.com/formalpubs/ecology_and_managemencovert.htm This is the Hosford pub I talked of earlier. Of all the pubs this one is the best to read to understand many aspects of matsi. Matsiman

User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Saturday October 04, 2014
Time: 08:27 PM

Messages

Forgive me if I'm rambling on, just very interested in this subject of host trees and mushrooms because it baffles me and I'm sure others when you return to an awesome productive spot the next season to find "nothing". Happens with morels as well(natural patches, not fire morels) seems boletes are consistent no matter what


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Saturday October 04, 2014
Time: 08:22 PM

Messages

If larger trees did not supply moisture under ground surely saplings and small plants would die in months of dry weather. If I don't water my basil or tomato plants for even a week of hot, dry weather......they die! In return, the small plants and mushrooms and worms compost and feed the large trees.wow, what an amazing and perfect cycle! What if, due to environmental changes and challenges, polution etc.the trees need to work harder to produce oxygen and require more water and therefore cutting back even a little from giving moisture to the rest of the forest. Could this scenario account for mushroom production or lack thereof?


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Saturday October 04, 2014
Time: 08:09 PM

Messages

The link to forest farming must have been posted as I was writing and asking if you had success with tent type experiments.


User_Name: Maron
Date: Saturday October 04, 2014
Time: 07:07 PM

Messages

The price for pine today in Randle is 16/16


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Saturday October 04, 2014
Time: 07:00 PM

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Very interesting stuff! You mentioned, Matsiman that you tried something similar. Was there any success? Again.....many things in the writings and experiments point to the importance of host trees and root systems. Long and short of it seems no host roots, no matsutaki. Tree roots go deeper in the soil than anything else in the forest and collect water. The roots I believe are porous(correct me if I'm wrong please). It would only make sense in my opinion that the roots would not only collect moisture for the tree but also release moisture under the soil maybe once the tree has taken what it needs (supplies the needy organisms with water) hence "Eco system". Maybe the poor harvest years are more to do with a cycle with the trees rather than not enough rain etc. There were heated moments on the board regarding this very topic but I have to agree with the side of the debate which points to host trees providing moisture to mastutaki mushroom spores (and others) and that rain may not be so terribly important for a good mushroom season. My 2 cents!


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Saturday October 04, 2014
Time: 06:29 PM

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Here is a link to what I tried with tunnel. Didn't work. http://matsiman.com/forestfarming.htm


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Saturday October 04, 2014
Time: 05:31 PM

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Fishgod,

Here is what you are looking for. http://matsiman.com/formalpubs/images/pubecomanageplate8.JPG

This is the page describing the use of the tunnels. There is a link in the text (plate 8) to the above pic. http://matsiman.com/formalpubs/chapter_1.htm The paragraph is near the bottom of the page.

 Tried something similar.

Matsiman


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Saturday October 04, 2014
Time: 03:49 PM

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Matsiman, any thoughts on the Hiroshima tents that Lobo mentioned?


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Saturday October 04, 2014
Time: 03:47 PM

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Jeez, hope I haven't started something. We may go in the bush to see giant tarps strewn about! Btw...... My new store is opening next week "Fishgod's tarps "R" us" lol!


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Saturday October 04, 2014
Time: 03:41 PM

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Fishgod; I recall seeing a photograph in 1995 of what was called a Hiroshima Tent used in Japan. It looked like a blue poly tarp placed over a frame, much like a small hot house. I believe the publication said it was used to induce fruiting but did not say how or why.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Saturday October 04, 2014
Time: 02:36 PM

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When I was growing up had acquaintances who harvested mushrooms yes, the magic kind. They told me that they covered the ground where they harvested with big tarps and "sweated" them out of the ground. Has anyone ever heard of or tested such methods or were these just silly things that kids try?


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Saturday October 04, 2014
Time: 01:36 PM

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Fishgod, good one on the dormant spore. I asked a PHD once the same question. Only I asked how can a dead patch get started again. I had no clue. He answered immediately. They leave a dormant spore behind that somehow starts when it's time. He wouldn't or couldn't explain further. Matsiman


User_Name: Kootenaybrother
Date: Saturday October 04, 2014
Time: 01:31 PM

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Back yard patch, Pulled 1 lbs of hedgehogs(sweet tooth)for eating.The pine mush patch was 80% wormy but their must have been 35-40 pine mushrooms there this year with open tops spreading their spores a good thing, half dozen lobsters mushrooms are going into supper tonight , frost last night , still time for them shrooms yet but the window is closing.Supposed to go up to 20 celcius tommorow quite warm for this time of year!Going boat picking of the arrow lakes next week gonna hit Fosthall and see what we come across , not many Pickers using a boat this year should be interesting!


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Saturday October 04, 2014
Time: 12:12 PM

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Matsiman, Here's a thought. Could it be possible that spores are like eggs, having everything they need already built-in and just waiting for the right time to bloom. Kinda like those frogs who burrow underground and turn dormant until the right time comes to emerge. Might explain the seemingly "dead patches" you speek of. Perhaps the patches aren't dead but just laying dormant.


User_Name: Shamrocky
Date: Saturday October 04, 2014
Time: 10:04 AM

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Roadside patch picking can be brutal. If I see cars a lot of times I will promptly turn the car around and leave for another area. Really my best patches are often a 1/2 hour to an hour walk from the car and I have them all to myself for the most part. Can really kink your neck, back and shoulders though trying to bring in a 50+ lbs harvest. Chanterelles can be highly lucrative if you work it right and find a better buyer who will pay higher. ($6 is the lowest I will go...take some pride in what you do, feel free to walk away from a bad deal...anything else is just a junky model of behavior). There are $200-$500 chanterelle days to be had in my area and it lasts well into November. Gas costs are negligible as it's really a close commute. I won't lie, it's hard picking and one hell of a work out, but it's consistent and nearly skunk-proof. Plus by covering ground for hours you are always likely to serendipitously stumble on other things, such as Cauliflower...which really if you think about it, would be fool's errand to go out looking for exclusively. We call it a "by catch", to borrow a term from the fishing industry.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Saturday October 04, 2014
Time: 09:06 AM

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Pete, Good point. Just as you say, it can be a good flush and not all patches flush. We also have patches in the study that haven't flushed in 15 years. We may get a mushroom or 2 from a few once in a while, but that's not a flush.
 
I think I know the years you are talking about. It was 95 and 97, I mentioned them before. Those are 2 of the years my info is based. They were also the best of 17 years evaluated. 97 was by far the best and I'm guessing it's the one you remember.
 
It was also a bumper year at the study. All we could do was tend the regular study patches and poke flags in mushrooms to locate new patches for future studies. We didn't have time to collect data on them and we doubled our work force. Even called in extra help. Many of those patches haven't popped since, not 1 mushroom.
 
The same thing happens here in CJ. There was a bumper crop in 92. I'm sure there are some Canadian pickers who remember that one. Good price, lots of mushrooms, not much competition. I haven't seen many of those patches pop since.
 
These are the 3 areas where my info originates. The Chemult area was 1 full section, Diamond Lake 16 acre and Cave Junction 400 acre. 
 
Hope that gives you enough to decide if I was thorough enough.
 
Matsiman

User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Saturday October 04, 2014
Time: 08:37 AM

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Counter count 24 hours 481. Matsiman


User_Name: wood crasher
Date: Saturday October 04, 2014
Time: 07:57 AM

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How much you paying for yellow chentrlls


User_Name: Pete
Date: Saturday October 04, 2014
Time: 07:42 AM

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In a protected area is one thing and public picking area another. Pines don't flush the same all over. I don't know anything where you talked about, just actual quality of the pick above chemult and it's been closer to 15 years since a real good crop.


User_Name: wild side
Date: Saturday October 04, 2014
Time: 06:26 AM

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anyone who supports wild fungi and its uses is doing something great to connect with nature. most folks in here are already connected but a lot of people in cities are unfortunately not. take the time out to share your experiences with those who are curious. we work at farmer markets and get all sorts of comments and interesting conversations when visitors see "Wild Mushrooms". Kootenay brother: Getting enough dried volume and selling at a high price to any buyer sounds great and thinking outside the box is a start. Count me in! let's get it going. I hear you about Nakusp being over populated now. The forest has shrunk considerably from logging and now there are way more harvestors. Yikes is what I felt when I rolled in but looking for new grounds 30 % of my time always helps with next visit.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Saturday October 04, 2014
Time: 05:59 AM

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Got email from Carla!! Her husband is sick and she is recovering from surgery. She said she would drop in and say hi. Matsiman


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Saturday October 04, 2014
Time: 05:51 AM

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Fis
Fishgod, Congrads on the fish catch. I used to fish allot, but don't anymore.
 
I don't think rain caused a "Blow Out". Blow out is the description I use to describe extremely fast growth. I did some comparison of temperatures verses growth. The evaluation was limited to 2 seasons, but results seamed to indicate the difference from the nightly low and the daily high controlled growth. Also mushrooms, in a patch which got more sun, grew faster than the ones a foot or so away that didn't get as much sun. You can check out the charts on this page. http://matsiman.com/fruitgrow.htm It's funny, I also did a comparison of prices for #1 and temperature changes affecting growth. Price drops were on the days growth increased. We always sold early so there was no insight in volume for the evening. Led me to believe the brokers knew something about growth.
 
Rain may have an influence in growth rate, but I haven't been able to make the connection. The information available suggests rain is a conductor of temperatures. When temps warm, wet grown will distribute the warmth in the soils much better than dry soil. The same applies for cold.
 
Rain can certainly cause problems for mushrooms the same as temps. We all know of the negative effects of rain and beneficial effects. Most don't understand effects of temperature. Basically during growth, declining temps cause slow to no growth, High temps can slow growth or burn babies. Last, the difference between high and low seem to be the major influence.
 
You could be right about need to produce spore quickly out of necessity. Mother nature may tell them you are near the end of your life cycle, make some spore. It is certainly a possibility.
 
Another note on temps I learned from a season picker, John Getz. He said there is a delay in growth. Patches which get warmth in the morning, will have grown nearly as much as they will for the day by 11 AM to 1 PM. The same applies to afternoon sun. Best to pick them the next morning.
 
I tested his claim, and it worked.
 
Please don't hesitate to ask questions or make suggestions. I'll take care of hecklers. We all have something to add. The craziest idea could be the one to clarify some situation.
 
Matsiman

User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Friday October 03, 2014
Time: 11:54 PM

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Hi All, Went fishing today and landed 2 chinook salmon(king salmon) each weighing around 20-25 pounds. Gave them to a couple of retired school principles who were fishing next to me but down on their fishing luck this day. Matsiman, don't want to bring up a heated debate on the board but must talk about the topic of "RAIN". Seems many folks on the board as of late were praying for rain as of late in hopes of a good crop in result. Here's my observation: My patch of Prince mushrooms was doing incredibly well until the rain came this evening. I was keeping a close eye on each and every button waiting for them to grow before harvesting them to fry and put in my belly however, very shortly after the rain began the immature buttons turned into flags! This may suggest that rain could be a mushroom enemy. Perhaps they flagged promptly to spore before they died even though they were tiny buttons. In my times of mushroom hunting(10 years) "rain" always seems to mess things up. My feeling is that temperature and sunlight play a much more important role with mushroom growth.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday October 03, 2014
Time: 08:14 PM

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steve from oregon, Only had the counter up a few days, but running about 500 in 24. I'm guessing about 200 actual visits. the rest are refresh.

Sent Carla an email asking her to post. Matsiman


User_Name: steve from oregon
Date: Friday October 03, 2014
Time: 07:53 PM

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FISH how has the handmade furniture business been going? Again what's going on with Carla?


User_Name: steve from oregon
Date: Friday October 03, 2014
Time: 07:40 PM

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Matsiman what is the normal 24 hour hit count?


User_Name: Kootenaybrother
Date: Friday October 03, 2014
Time: 06:39 PM

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Heard a rumor that number 1 matsutake dehydrated , are going for 1000$ per kilo in Korea . True or bull? If only I spoke Korean sounds like a really good price ,I hop on a plane and deliver them myself at that price, opportunity knocks for thoses willing to think outside the box! Six bucks a pound , I'll eat them myself at that price! Doesn't even cover the gas bill!


User_Name: Phantom picker
Date: Friday October 03, 2014
Time: 04:12 PM

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Came out of the bush today and came across four fishermen from Ireland,we talked for a while and ended up telling them that we are picking mushrooms and the first thing that came out of there mouth was,( what magic mushrooms) lmao. The pines here are still 50% wormy and there isn't verry much them,Gota do a 12hr day just for 10lbs.Shanties are done combstooth as well but did find some nice jelly ears.going to take weekend off and see what pops up Monday.Im hopeing something new will be there but to tell you the truth it's not looking verry good we'll see. Good luck and be safe.


User_Name: bruce
Date: Friday October 03, 2014
Time: 03:48 PM

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Dont get fool by the business bullshit the matsutake is the finest mushroom you can get and the most expensive except for the truffle.


User_Name: Bruce
Date: Friday October 03, 2014
Time: 03:24 PM

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Buying grade 1 for 6$ a pound and selling it for 55$ thats what some company(WWF) does.


User_Name: SHROOMER
Date: Friday October 03, 2014
Time: 02:04 PM

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PRICES IN TERRACE,fall again. 6 bucks today and some will be closed.....cost of food has raised so much,so should the mushrooms. who needs temporary foreign workers.locals are doing it for them...cheap labour...companies got you all over the barrel. how desperate are you...do what you gotta do I guess.this is why I/ll never change. hope you enjoy the costs of your outing .pickers picking up the tab...that's a pickers worse nite mare.coming home broke....enjoy your price fixing,challenges....6 bucks....wahoo ....enjoy the pick...


User_Name: Mushroom Poet
Date: Friday October 03, 2014
Time: 11:44 AM

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The price in the Terrace and Nass area is dropping to a predicted $6 per pound this weekend. Pickers are bringing in some nice honkers but the worms are still getting in. I will pick around 140 pounds this weekend just because I love picking. Certainly not for the crappy price.


User_Name: northern
Date: Friday October 03, 2014
Time: 11:18 AM

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Fry dont know what time you checked for depots to be open but they sure were when i checked! as for rain- it started in Terrace late last night here- it certainly has not been raining like you say. Accurate info is greatly appreciated on this board- some even take it as gospel.


User_Name: Fry
Date: Friday October 03, 2014
Time: 10:14 AM

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It's just mushroom weather now, overcast, rain, much cooler temps... if there's any time for the pines to pop.. it's now.. Tried to do price check yesterday, but mushroom depote's were not open. It's been raining, sometimes pouring the last couple days in Terrace, with more in the forecast. Hopefully something's going to happen soon.. Good Luck, Full Buckets to all.. Happy Thanksgiving.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday October 03, 2014
Time: 10:01 AM

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Dreads, Thanks for the update. As for Vern, I'm sure he is the best there is at picking and forecasting. I have no doubt as to his abilities. I do question his belief as to matsi fruit production, I tried to have a debate with him, but he ended up making personal accusations after completely getting off the subject. I investigated his claims based on genetic differences, and found he could be right. I then presented evidence which indicated he was incorrect and in came the trolls.
 
Read down this months messages and decide for yourself. I had to delete some.
 
I will say again, I have no doubt about Vern's abilities.
 
I would still welcome a debate with anyone as long as the focus is on the information, not the one presenting.
 
I hope this doesn't initiate another round of personal attacks. If so I will delete them. Matsiman

User_Name: Northern picker
Date: Friday October 03, 2014
Time: 09:25 AM

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Hey terrace area, last time I sold, 3 days ago, it was 10 a pound for #1s. I'm done now. It went from 25-10 in 3 days.


User_Name: Dreads
Date: Friday October 03, 2014
Time: 09:10 AM

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Hey man it's not a good season anywhere. I heard all about chemult and rumors of a big flush in Canada too but that's bs cause I got people there. You all may recall another poster here, Vern, who last spring, correctly predicted a challenging season this fall. I don't know how he does it but his predictions are the most accurate and he is legendary among those who know. The man is a living legend and if you can get in tight with him and his people you score. That is if there are mushrooms to be found. If they don't get them there are none to be had!


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday October 03, 2014
Time: 09:06 AM

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Pete, I took a look at the data from the study. It is on the west side not far from Diamond Lake. Usually seasons are the same as Eastside. Looks like 2007 was the last good year. Matsiman


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday October 03, 2014
Time: 07:55 AM

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Counter 24 Hour Count 529. Matsiman


User_Name: Pete
Date: Friday October 03, 2014
Time: 07:36 AM

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I went down to Chemult too and it wasn't worth it. Spent three days, mostly flagged out. The cost of the permit and gas makes it a total waste of time. And then the low price of pines. It sure isn't like it used to be there and has been many many years since they had a decent crop.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday October 03, 2014
Time: 06:53 AM

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Steve from oregon, Thanks for the link. It didn't work cause the entire link was not recognized by software used on this site. I have fixed. Looks to be a good source of current info. Didn't have time to check completely, but probably worth the time to read further. Matsiman


User_Name: kootenaybrother
Date: Friday October 03, 2014
Time: 06:36 AM

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Pulled 170$ worth of pine and lobsters outta the bush, still paying 10 per pound for #1,Losters are 3 $ per pound .Lots of wormy shrooms out there, but the new flush is nice and tight.Heard the coast is very wormy,to the point where the buyers are not buying.Supposed to go up to 20 celcius,the season should still be happening for another couple of weeks. The buyers are not buying chanties a this point, there gettig old and water logged, although we found a few nice ones. Good day in the bush!


User_Name: shroomgirl
Date: Friday October 03, 2014
Time: 05:29 AM

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Hey Fishgod. Yeah, I get that look all the time. It's amazing how many peoples' minds go automatically to magic mushrooms. LOL I just tell them NO, I pick the tasty kind. I am in Washington, so nope. Not just Canadians. (Hubby is from Canada, and this is all new to him also). Everyone get full buckets! I am afraid that I can't get out this weekend, unless a miracle happens. So I wish everyone else lots of luck!!


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Friday October 03, 2014
Time: 01:31 AM

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Besides I highly doubt that I will find someone in one of the remote areas I have found ;). And if I do they must be ambitious. Full buckets all.


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Friday October 03, 2014
Time: 01:01 AM

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I agree fish I try to look at it like mushrooms are starting to get the attention they deserve. And if new people are gonna get into it they should at least know what kind of environment and picking practices they need to survive and or thrive.


User_Name: Steve from oregon
Date: Friday October 03, 2014
Time: 12:52 AM

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Here is a link to the Oregon mushroom group on meet up. Oregon Mushroom Group On Meet Up . I believe Germany started it a few years ago but has since morphed.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 11:38 PM

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I'm kinda glad that most folks are not so interested in our hobby. It's nice to go harvesting without a "gong-show" situation. Solitude can at times be bliss!


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 11:31 PM

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Bill, Could be because the magic ones were quite popular when I was growing up here in B.C. Most people I know tried them at some point..... Except my Mom of coarse. On a serious note, I know of very few people my area(Vancouver) who harvest wild edibles. Perhaps everyone is too caught up in the rat-race


User_Name: shroomer
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 11:16 PM

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dragon,chaga is a winter pick....that fool that bought all that chaga..at the zoo.. words out,there are trees down all over, they cut the fuc/en tree to harvest...,,thats just crazy. you should research a little more. so you know,they do regrow in 4 to 6 yrs.use the proper equipment fools.....careful, there a lot of these wise guys out there.


User_Name: Bill Bichen
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 11:09 PM

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I think it weird people think you mean magic mushrooms, down here in Wa nobody has ever said like that to me. I guess the people here know about wild mushrooms and that there lots that are edible rather than just assume I have the funny kind.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 08:33 PM

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Ol Gulch, That's hilarious! Glad it's confirmed that I'm not the only one. We could just begin the conversation with "what I am about to say to you has absolutely nothing to do with magic mushrooms"


User_Name: terrace area
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 07:58 PM

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anyone know prices in terrace for pines?


User_Name: ol' gulch
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 07:18 PM

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Fishgod- oh do i ever know that look. I do farmers markets with my pickings and 2 cliche comments i get are; a reference to magic mushrooms, and a stern warning about how you have to be careful because someone or other died from mushroom poisoning once. I should just print out signs with responses to these and save myself a little breath.


User_Name: Roofer
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 06:16 PM

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Hey just wanted to say chemult is a drag this year. for some reason a near bust. been here 2 wks making 30 50 bucks a day aint worth it. so we're leaving and calling it a year such as it was. hey bill - in the past war and epidemics wiped out people and kept the population in check. those still happen and earth can heal in time. I've thought about that before. one thing - the nuclear and chemical stuff would be a prob though and dams too. if people were more or less wiped out that is.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 03:47 PM

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Should have said "my fellow Canadians" as I am one. Wouldn't want them to think that brothers and sisters from parts unknown are picking on them lol!


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 03:42 PM

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Anyone else notice that when you mention to people that you pick wild mushrooms they give you that "silly grin" and say "oh yeah, really?" Then you have to explain "no,not the magic kind but edible ones". Maybe it's just Canadians who respond this way, dunno!


User_Name: Jeremy
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 02:58 PM

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Sorry, found it, didn't look hard enough.... my bad.. :-(


User_Name: Jeremy
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 02:55 PM

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Matsiman, when I looked on this board, I believe yesterday, there was a post with the name and contact info of a buyer in the Cowichan Lake area, do you know what happened to the post? Thanks.


User_Name: Dragon
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 11:59 AM

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Anyone buying chaga?


User_Name: Dragon
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 11:58 AM

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What's price for pines in terrace?


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 11:34 AM

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Fishgod, Yep you got the picture perfectly on both comments. Mushrooms likely have some treatment value and are mineral collectors, so probably are capable of containing trace elements. I won't comment on the money.
 
The challenge with medicinal claims is the variation of possible medicinal properties. It can vary because of genetic differences within species and each body acts different because of the bodies chemical differences person to person.
 
I have no doubt mushrooms do contain help for a variety of diseases. The problem is something that works for you may not work for me because of the above differences. Matsiman

User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 09:45 AM

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Bill, Yes, the planet may be much better with less folks running around but it was you and I who made it this way.No one wishes to get sick or die or be without their loved ones and as a result man has formulated ways to combat disease. Natural selection in humans is pretty much a thing of the past at this point and population is an issue because of that. Unfortunately, if we only had 10% of the people we have now there would still be greed and corruption on the same "per capita" level. Guess we must do the best we can with what we have. Most people want the same things like happiness, wellness and a few mushrooms to pick!


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 09:01 AM

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Matsiman, Thanks for the info. Wasn't aware that mushrooms have no nutritional value however, from what I have read they do seem to contain certain trace elements. Some folks suggest they may have medicinal properties when it comes to certain illnesses. It's difficult these days to trust much of the info out there......generally speaking much info is designed to grab our dollars or to decide how to advertise to, well.......grab our dollars lol!


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 08:03 AM

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Counter 25 hour count 511. Matsiman


User_Name: Pete
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 07:41 AM

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I found some mushrooms yesterday but not enough to consider it a commercial flush, maybe in a week or two? Hey about bill's comment- There are those who plan on being sucked up into heaven in a space ship or whatever so it doesn't matter if the earth is destroyed. In fact some actually hope for it. The real crazies think their imaginary sky god wants them to ruin the earth cuz it doesn't matter. How insane is that?


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 07:40 AM

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kootenaybrother, I have asked in the past not to discuss Paul Stamets on this site. I have personal experience with the man and wouldn't believe most anything he says. That's my personal opinion from experience and conversations with a former partner of Paul's.
 
We have also had complaints on the board from multiple visitors complaining about his reliability. I suggest any visitor go to his site and decide for yourself. http://www.fungi.com/
 
Mushrooms my have medicinal value, but there is no science information that supports claims of medicinal value. John Holiday at Aloha Medicinal is conducting clinical tests to acquire information to support medicinal claims. All substance which make medicinal claims must go through this process before FDA will sanction these claims. The FDA allows them to be described as a dietary supplement same as vitamins, but not medicinal.
 
Let's not go to medicinal claims of mushrooms. There is no science based info to support claims, that I am aware of.
 
Sorry folks, but my feathers get ruffled when anything about that man is posted here. I'm sure other visitors who have had personal dealings with him feels the same. As I said there have been multiple complaints here.
 
Matsiman

User_Name: Bill Bichen
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 07:12 AM

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Sorry bout the double comment. Btw I am not hoping for some disaster or wipe out, but consider the problems we face as a species if we don't get control of ourselves. Population and destruction wise. Eventual extinction is likely as well as destruction of the whole planet.


User_Name: Bill Bichen
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 07:06 AM

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I agree and just yesterday while surveying an area for early matsis I got to thinking the earth and the rest of the life on it, animals, plants, the oceans, etc would be much better off long term if the human population was reduced. Like a plague or pandemic that left maybe 10 percent. Think of how much better everything would be. For the survivors I mean. They rest of life on earth, not just humans.


User_Name: kootenaybrother
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 06:06 AM

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I highly recommend that video ! Very inspirational , what a concept , heal the planet rather than the dominate human philosphy of rape and pillage for dollar bills! Change is a coming you too can be a part of it ! Peace Out!!


User_Name: kootenaybrother
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 05:38 AM

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Mushrooms have selium ,and an amazing fact, when you dry certain types of mushrooms in the sun their vitamin D content actually increases.Check out Paul Stamets , on ted talks how mushrooms can save the world.Do you really trust the FDA?Who paying them?Big Pharma! Let you be the judge!


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 05:04 AM

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Fishgod, As I understand, according to the FDA, Federal Food Administration, mushrooms contain no nutritional value. Matsiman


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 04:48 AM

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some picker, I missed your reference to moisture in message Date: Monday September 29, 2014 Time: 07:32 AM. Yes we did get off the original discussion about moisture.
 
However the original debate began with the importance of rain, not moisture.
 
All I can say about moisture is based on drying picked mushrooms. We were required to weight fresh, then dry and determine moisture content. We dried hundreds of mushrooms. Moisture content was 87 to 90% moisture. Doesn't really say how much is needed, just how much they contained.
 
I don't think there is much debate on moisture. They definitely need enough to contain this high percent of moisture. The real question is where do they get this moisture, or to be more specific, the original question was, is rain necessary to supply moisture? Can you have a good crop with little or no rain?
 
I will be achieving September messages in a few days. At that time I will summarize all postings related to genetics, stress and temperature discussions to a different page so visitors can follow the discussion easier.
 
If any visitor has more to add to any one of these categories, please do so.
 
Thanks, Matsiman

User_Name: coreano
Date: Thursday October 02, 2014
Time: 12:26 AM

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Guys, I have left a msg on the other board saying I have found a cellphone while I was in the bush in Pemberton, BC. Its a LG cellphone. If you have lost it, please email me at namgilee604@hotmail.com. I want to give it back to you.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Wednesday October 01, 2014
Time: 11:42 PM

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From what I understand mushrooms of all types are not digestible. The body takes the nutrients and elements from them but they don't actually digest. I could be wrong and please correct me if that's the case. Matsiman, perhaps your feeling sick could be the inability to digest them.....just a thought


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Wednesday October 01, 2014
Time: 10:39 PM

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Back when I was taking summer classes at Ricks College, 1977 I believe. I took a class about the relationship between mushrooms, molds & man. We did field trips but I gave all my mushroom away and wouldn't eat any. It wasn't until I had a few more years under my belt and the masters studies, that I began doing my research on mushroom relationships and discovered how tasty some fungi could be.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Wednesday October 01, 2014
Time: 09:55 PM

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Nope don't eat mushroom at all, except smoke chantie.
 
The last time I tried, was almost a month ago. The new data collectors at the study invited for dinner. We had picked some chantie after the study and they were excited to eat them.
 
Took two bites and that was all I could stand. Got sick latter, but that could have been too much Rolling Rock beer.
 
There was some well know English botanist or mycologist who studied mushrooms, and I think, couldn't taste or maybe it was smell.
 
Can't stand the taste. I pick when I can, and give them to friends, or anybody I can find to take them. For me it's the thrill of the hunt and being in the forest. Getting to know the habits of your "prey" and using that knowledge to find where they are. I kinda loose interest just picking patches I already know.

Gotten pretty good with matsi, but not so good at others, in fact, not good at all. Matsiman


User_Name: Scruff
Date: Wednesday October 01, 2014
Time: 09:34 PM

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Matsiman,  WHAT don't you eat mushrooms?


User_Name: Boletus Joe
Date: Wednesday October 01, 2014
Time: 09:06 PM

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Whats wrong with me.... When I worked on the water of all the people I worked with I was the only one that could swim. I find that there are not to many pickers (that I know) that eat Mushrooms. And Matsiman, the creator of this wonderful message board... admits to not eating mushrooms..... What is this world coming to.


User_Name: Fiddlehead Heaven
Date: Wednesday October 01, 2014
Time: 09:02 PM

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Just a quick note to ask if your #1 buttons are being downgraded to a #4 because of a single slug or bug bite, as is being done to pickers down here in Nova Scotia? Dwight In Nova Scotia


User_Name: under
Date: Wednesday October 01, 2014
Time: 07:44 PM

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Hey kootnaybrother you should just shut up with your patches ,people will find them .lol :)


User_Name: Kootenaybrother
Date: Wednesday October 01, 2014
Time: 05:42 PM

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Nice ideas people, My shrooms are still dehydrating , I'll give you some feed back soon , gonna hit some patches tomorrow in Nakusp,the picking should be good gonna hit some tough access patches Good luck all and have fun!


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Wednesday October 01, 2014
Time: 05:20 PM

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Matsiman, Thanks! I am going to try your mushroom smoking idea. Bet smoked morels and boletes would be awesome as well!


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Wednesday October 01, 2014
Time: 01:59 PM

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Lobo, I quit making the seasoning over 7 years ago. Not that people didn't like. I told everybody how it was made, so now they make their own.
 
Didn't like the smoked matsi that much, but the smoked chantie is great, even though I don't eat mushrooms of any kind. I still pick and make smoked chantie, but just give it to friends. I feel obligated cause I got them addicted. People use it on everything from salad to steak. It's easy make. Smoke dry them with any wood you like. Doesn't seem to be a preference in wood used. Some smoke for a few hours, then put in dehydrator or dry on screen. Make powder in blender. Matsiman

User_Name: porky
Date: Wednesday October 01, 2014
Time: 09:14 AM

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There is a buyer named Mike in Lake Cowichan at 7995 Greendale rd. He is now open buying everything. His number is (250) 710-4427


User_Name: northerntour
Date: Wednesday October 01, 2014
Time: 08:27 AM

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Hi Fishgod, Yes, I can view the photos you post online. Thank you for sharing.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Wednesday October 01, 2014
Time: 06:34 AM

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22 Hour Count 479


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Wednesday October 01, 2014
Time: 05:45 AM

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Steve from oregon, Please do post link to other mushroom board. Other visitors here might want take a look. Matsiman


User_Name: JDS
Date: Wednesday October 01, 2014
Time: 05:37 AM

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Steve from Oregon...What is the website you mentioned posting on? You said something about "meet up" but that doesn't mean anything to me. Please give the address...I'd like to check it out. Thanks.


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Wednesday October 01, 2014
Time: 12:32 AM

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Lily, Any lobsters?


User_Name: Fishgod
Date: Wednesday October 01, 2014
Time: 12:28 AM

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Lily, Fred will be in town in a week or so. He will be set up at skinny's grill parking lot in silver creek. If you look back in the postings I put his phone number up. Hope this helps!


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